Wednesday, 10 of March of 2010

The Digital Age and RWA: A Call for Change

Hi, Kristen Painter, ESPAN president here. After RWA president Diane Pershing’s letter in the June RWR, I had a conversation about RWA’s stance on epublishing with my good friend, talented author, and owner of The Knight Agency, Deidre Knight. She had so much wisdom and industry information to bring to the topic that I asked her to guest blog here at ESPAN. This is what she had to say…

Deidre KnightMany of you know me as founder of the Knight Agency, which represents a powerhouse roster of bestselling authors of fiction and nonfiction.  Some of you may also be familiar with my romance novels, such as the recently released RED KISS (Signet) or the e-book, BUTTERFLY TATTOO (Samhain, 4/09). Since I come from the perspective of dual publishing careers, I’d like to address some of the recent issues and discussions within RWA concerning digital publishers.

Perhaps it’s the very fact that I’ve spent the past thirteen years championing writers in a wide variety of genres, and especially those of women’s fiction and romance, that RWA’s missteps regarding e-publishing have been so frustrating  to witness.  That disappointment intensified recently when it became apparent that RWA had not only neglected to plan a single digital workshop for this summer’s annual convention, but had refused to allow one of the industry’s best e-publishers the chance to officially discuss their program.  I believe both situations reveal that the organization is not keeping pace with current trends in the industry.

RWA’s current stance on e-books is that a publisher must offer at least a $1,000 advance in order to qualify for legitimacy.  Never mind that many digital authors far exceed that amount in royalties, or sell more than 5,000 copies of print editions of their e-published titles. The problem with RWA’s simplistic criteria is that it ignores one crucial fact.  Our industry is changing radically, with traditional publishers seeking innovative models for overhauling their distribution and content.

For instance, HarperStudio has created an initiative whereby authors will forego advances and traditional royalties in favor of a fifty-fifty profit share.  No advance, no returns, and a larger share of royalties… perhaps RWA will soon feel the need to denounce HarperCollins.Butterfly Tattoo by Deidre Knight

Incidentally, remember that an advance is against royalties, a prepayment of income that will flow to the author.  It’s not a flat payment that implies the promise of promotion or publicity.  It is money the publisher is largely confident they will recoup from sales, therefore it represents very little risk.

I say this to counter RWA’s claim that e-publishers do not invest in or take risks on their authors because they don’t pay advances.  In short, RWA dismisses e-publishers’ validity, despite the fact that they pay four times as much in royalties, simply based on the timing of their payments. RWA’s position makes me wonder if they’re unaware that New York publishers are now paying 1/3 of the “advance” upon publication? Or sometimes even later than that, since with some hard cover contracts, that last 1/3 or ¼ isn’t paid until a year after publication? And sometimes it’s not even until the paperback version is published? To translate, the traditional definition of an “advance” has changed so drastically that it amazes me that RWA would continue to use it as the only measure of validity.

Meanwhile, let’s talk about RWA’s position that e-published authors who make more than $1,000 in royalties are a rare exception.  As an agent, I have seen a fair number of statements for clients writing for Ellora’s Cave and Samhain.  The majority of these writers have passed that $1,000 benchmark within the first few months. I’m sure some of the smaller e-publishers sell fewer copies of titles, but lumping all e-publishers together and stating that most of their authors don’t earn $1,000 a title is misleading.  It’s like comparing royalties earned at St. Martin’s Press to those from a tiny print publisher of romances. All print publishers are not created equally any more than all digital publishers are.

If RWA truly wants to protect authors, then it’s time to join the 21st century where the rules of the digital market are changing daily.  As I write this, a new initiative between Scribd.com and Simon and Schuster was just announced, a partnership to bring digital content to members of this emerging community. Considering the priority that print publishers are obviously placing on developing digital content, for RWA to disavow e-publishers is a disservice to all their members.

RWA, protect your membership by becoming innovative and fully educated about the changing face of digital publishing.  Start sending a board member to events such as the recent http://www.idpf.org/ Expo.  Seek input from agents and publishers (which, to my knowledge, you have not done—at least on the digital front that we are discussing.)  Create a specific board position, someone who can serve as digital liaison, much like there is a chapter liaison or PRO liaison.

I’m concerned by the emerging culture of elitism that I and many other RWA members see.  RWA has drawn a line in the sand that is clearly hurtful, and serves to alienate and exclude a growing sector of their membership.  The organization seems more concerned with being proven correct than in honoring the needs and feelings of an ever-expanding portion of their membership.

I would also like to note that in Diane Pershing’s recent RWR letter she stated that RWA must consider the needs of all its members.  I find that logic flawed because by insisting that e-published authors aren’t legitimate, haven’t achieved a recognizable benchmark—and that their publishers aren’t legitimate either—RWA is by default only representing the needs of a portion of the membership.  No wonder valuable, talented members are leaving the organization or discussing doing so.

Consider, too, that e-publishing can be a tremendous beginning point for many authors, leading to even bigger careers with mainstream publishers.  Within my own Red Kiss by Deidre Knightagency, I signed on e-authors such as Rhyannon Byrd, Dakota Cassidy, and Joey Hill, and in each instance, their track record in e-book format caught New York’s attention, as did the reviews they’d earned.

Not only did I sell digitally published authors to houses such as Random House, Penguin Putnam and Harlequin, but their e-readership followed them to print, launching them with a huge built in advantage in such a tough market.  In many cases, authors who begin with e-publishers choose to continue writing for those companies, even as they forge ahead with traditional New York houses.  Surely, RWA can see the value in these examples, and how e-publishing could potentially benefit their members.

As a third generation entrepreneur, I’ve learned firsthand that you either change with the times by adapting to the market or you are left behind.  When the automobile first came along, buggy whip manufacturers saw themselves as being in the whip business, when they should have understood that they were in the transportation business.  We are now in the literary content business, and the physically published book is only one of several delivery formats, yet another “device” to hold, much like the Sony Reader, the Kindle, or your iPhone.  Like the buggy whip manufacturers, RWA must modify their organizational model or be left behind…their membership along with them.

Let me end on this note: I love New York publishing. I love the people, the editors, the executives and the books these individuals create, sometimes against incredible resistance of many kinds.  But to say that traditional publishing is the only legitimate model ignores the fact that even these companies are struggling —from having to drop authors and editors due to economic downturn, to contemplating new distribution models, to grappling with understanding the fast-changing world of digital publishing.  If RWA’s very model of “legitimacy” wrestles to understand and adapt to these new times, then certainly RWA should follow that lead.

- Deidre Knight


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Kristen Painter

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:20

Thanks for this great post, Deidre. I really appreciate the articulate way you handled this.


traci

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:20

this is an excellent, well-worded article – I hope it helps bring a resolution!


ArkansasCyndi

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:22

Well thought out response. Good points. I hope RWA takes your suggestions under consideration, especially for workshops at nationals. We (RWA Members) need to well versed in publication options, print and digital. Thanks ESPAN (and Kristen) for the post.


Bryn

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:31

Thank you, Ms. Knight!

RWA’s stance on e-publishing is not only insulting and unnecessarily divisive, it’s also out of touch with the times. Here’s hoping the RWA listens to a brilliant and well-reasoned statement from one of the romance industry’s most respected professionals.


Lynne Connolly

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:32

Good one, Deidre.
Other organisations are stepping up to the mark. The RNA (UK Romantic Novelists’ Association) had its first Conference ebook publishing workshop two years ago, and this year, I’ve been asked to address two of the chapters on epublishing and developments in the market.
It’s not the only organisation to do so, either. Professional bodies like accountants who specialise in the publishing industry are revising the way they look at taxes, for instance and the Society of Authors is responding. Sticking your head in the sand only does a disservice to members.
As a Samhain, Ellora’s Cave and Loose-Id writer, I can confirm what you say about the $1000 in royalties statement. I was a member of the RWA, but I left because, quite simply, I wasn’t getting value for money.
It’s reality, and it won’t go away. If the RWA wants to serve its membership by providing information and advice, it needs to do its research. Yesterday.


Diana Peterfreund

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:33

Hi, Deidre,

Can you clarify a few points for me? What do you mean by, “RWA’s current stance on e-books is that a publisher must offer at least a $1,000 advance in order to qualify for legitimacy.”

By “legitimacy,” (oh, how I hate that word!) do you mean that the author’s publication qualifies them for the PAN (published authors) network? Because according to the RWA website, there are two options for PAN qualification. The first is a >$1000 advance. The second is:

“Option Two: Any General or Honorary member who has earned at least $1,000 in the form of royalties or a combination of advance plus royalties on a single published romance novel or novella published by a non-subsidy, non-vanity publisher may join PAN as a full member following the publication of the title.”

I think that the RWA national organization is being very short sighted about many aspects of e-publishing, particularly as regards their disinterest in providing workshop info at the conference, and complete dismissal the way ebooks are put into the market, making them ineligible for RWA national contests on copyright technicalities. However, I’m not sure what is meant by “legitimacy” in your article.


B.E. Sanderson

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:42

How sad. Ms. Pershing’s dismissal of epublishers is so similar to the prejudice romance writers themselves have always had to fight. As if romance hasn’t already faced its share of bias, now the very organization created to help those writers is jumping on the bandwagon and trying to take legitimacy away from one of their publishing outlets. Feh.


Shiloh Walker

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:42

Very well said, Ms. Knight. Thank you.


Maria Geraci

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:48

Well written post! It seems that RWA is always the *last* to catch on. A few years ago it was the “definition of romance” debacle and now this. What century are these people living in? Do they not realize that the only thing constant is change?


Lakia

in June 15th, 2009 @ 04:51

Thanks for the stand. I see your point clearly. I buy almost as many e-published stories as I do print. I can see buying more e-pub in the future because of the convenience of having my books on hand at all times.


BadBarb

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:04

Clap, clap I have been saying this for awhile. RWA is going to shoot itself in the foot and one day there are only going to be a few members. It is awful that an organization that claims to support romance writers, doesn’t support everyone.


Angela James

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:04

@Diana

I’ll go ahead and answer your question since I’m in a position to know the answer :P

There are actually two separate…validations? here. The first is an author’s entrance into PAN, which you quoted. The second is what Deidre was referring to, in regards to publishers specifically. RWA will offer…I don’t even know what the right word is here. Approval? Recognition? To any publisher who offers an advance of $1000 or more to each of their authors. In return, publishers get space at RWA Nationals to hold a publisher spotlight and editor appointments. I can only surmise, from Ms. Pershing’s letter this month that these are the only publisher’s the RWA board will encourage authors to work with?

I have more to say about this, but will eventually have to take it to my own blog because I don’t think it belongs in the comments of Deidre’s excellent post.


KyAnn Waters

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:15

You rock Deidre! And you have wrapped up the problem with RWA perfectly. I left RWA a year ago because of the national organization and haven’t looked back. On the local level, I will say I’ve missed seeing my chapter mates but we’ve managed to stay in touch. Too bad you can’t have one without the other.


Moriah Jovan

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:17

I really appreciated the article, Ms. Knight, but I was with RWA in the 1990s and believe me, the culture of elitism has always been there in spades. Then, it was published versus unpublished. Their attention’s just been divided by the various stages of “unpublished” as RWA sees it.


Ember

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:22

Thank you Deidre, for your eloquent and graceful handling of this. I hope your message can help pave the way to more productive conversations between the RWA board of directors and the members who have put their trust behind their leadership.


Ashley Ludwig

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:26

Deidre – I followed your #rwachange on twitter – and found this article this morning – another new way to disseminate information to authors, publishers, editors, RWA, etc. Talk about moving with the times! I maintained my membership with RWA this year, so that hopefully I might cast a vote on this issue should it come up.

Your points are valid, and this e-book author thanks you for continuing to champion writers of all sorts, all genres. Thanks for all that you do.

~Ashley


Faith V. Smith Romance Author

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:27

Thank you Deidre! I dropped my membership to RWA because of the contests our ebook authors cannot take a part in. I thought why do I want to be a part of an organization that limited my successes. Thank you for stating what most of the publishing industry already knew. Ebook publishers and authors work just as hard, look for excellent work to put out, and endorse their authors and companies 100 percent. I am proud to be an author with http://www.thewildrosepress.com


Diana Peterfreund

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:38

Thanks for the clarification, Angela. Like i said, I do think it’s incredibly short sighted not to offer an e-pub “track” at the national conference. I was recently discussing this with Kelli from EC. I’m glad that a lot of the chapters of RWA feel differently and invite epublishers to discuss their paradigms at local conferences.


Nicole McCaffrey

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:39

Well said! If I hadn’t already made up my mind not to renew my membership, Diane Pershing’s latest RWR article would have made it up for me. She asked something along the lines of: “why would an author spend ten years working on a manuscript only to sell it for no royalties and very little chance of making any money on it?”

I know many historical authors who could tell her exactly why.

Thank you, Ms. Knight.


Eva

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:40

Thank you Deidre! It’s an excellent post.


Donna Bas

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:41

Deirdre, thankyou for voicing what I have felt for quite some time. I dropped my RWA membership last year because of their stand on epublishers. I wish more members would, but many stay only because of their local chapter’s support. Epublishers are the future. I felt sure that when Harlequin joined the ranks of epublishing that RWA would open their eyes. Apparently they have chosen to remain blind to the future of the publishing industry.


Carolyn Matkowsky

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:45

Wonderfuls, Deidre. Very well thought-out. The culture of elitism has been around RWA for years. And I don’t like it. We are all writers, trying to sell our stories. And yet some in RWA try to make tthose of us with small presses or epubs feel like second-class citizens. I hope more of our members speak up as eloquently as you have to change this elitist culture. Thanks again.


Voirey Linger

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:45

An excellent post. Thank you so much. My increasing frustration with the RWA’s stance on epublishing has been a deciding factor for me in regards to joining or not joining. Until the RWA truly stands for all it’s members, print and digital, New York and epubbed, there is no place for me in the organization. I have effectively been shut out.

I hope that the RWA membership will make an effort to vote for leaders who truly are focused on the future of publishing, instead of continuing to support those who have chosen to cling to the idea of New York as the only true publishing option.


Bonnie Kinsey

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:47

Diana P wrote: “Can you clarify a few points for me? What do you mean by, “RWA’s current stance on e-books is that a publisher must offer at least a $1,000 advance in order to qualify for legitimacy.”…”

Not speaking AT ALL for Deidre Knight, just for myself and hopefully others, but in a very basic way, “legitimacy” in the eyes of Diane Pershing (and RWA, since as president she speaks for the whole of the organization) appears to translate into a difference between quotes and not quotes.

An e-published author, as suggested by Ms. Pershing’s comments in the June RWR, is “published”…whereas an author signed by an advance-paying publisher is published. Small difference in text, huge difference in actual statement.

That said, my other issue – as an organization that prides itself on educating members, I’ve noticed a decided lack of education about electronic publishing options. At my first RWA chapter meeting, one lady (an office holder) asked me if I’m published and didn’t know what I meant when I talked about my e-publishers. How, then, can RWA claim a purpose of education when it refuses to present opportunities (ie electronic publishing workshops at Nationals) for its members to learn about every topic?

I suppose “legitimizing” e-publishing as an option for RWA members would mean Ms. Pershing is no longer able to make snide-toned statements to the effect that authors are signing e-book contracts just to be able to say they’re “published” (paraphrase from the June RWR letter from the president). How could she possibly fill all those column inches without somebody to demean?

-
writing as Emily Ryan-Davis
Ellora’s Cave, Freya’s Bower


Isabel Roman

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:51

Excellent post, Deidre. You pointed out pertant facts I hope RWA will soon realize for themselves. Here’s hoping they listen!


Nara Malone

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:52

I’ve been looking around to see if there is a group similar to RWA that serves digitally published authors. Does anyone know one?


Lyn Washington

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:55

Thank you so much for your article. I’ve been following this argument, both as a reader (I love both physical and e-books) and as an aspiring writer. It seems as if everything in the world is now balanced on the edge of a razor, including publishing, entertainment, and information businesses. And the organizations that seek to serve them.


Nara Malone

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:57

To clarify my first comment, I mean a group outside of the RWA, rather than chapters within the organization like Espan’s wonderful group.


Tara West

in June 15th, 2009 @ 05:57

Deidre, thank you for a wonderful article. I wish I didn’t have to belong to RWA. Because I am epublished, I can’t enter the GH, but I’m excluded from the Rita. Where is my place in RWA? If it wasn’t for my local chapter, I would have canceled my membership years ago.

BTW- The cover for Red Kiss is gorgeous!

:) T.


April Morelock

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:00

Insightful post. I know this was under some deep discussion on another site. It’s disheartening to me to continue seeing this from RWA. I continue to hold off on renewal for this one reason alone.

April


Imogen Howson

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:12

Thanks for your articulately explained post, Deidre. I’m in the UK, and a member of Romantic Novelists’ Assocation. For me, it’s really nice that the RNA has one requirement of full membership and status as a published author: any romantic work over 30,000 words published by a non-vanity publisher. (To be fair, they have a different approach to their non-published members–they let only a certain number in each year and the whole thing is arranged differently from RWA.)

Despite being in the UK, I’m very interested in the US market. Both my publishers are US-based, and I’d love to sell to NY one day! So, really, I’d like to join RWA. But I hesitate over membership of an organisation that doesn’t see me as a properly published author.

Oh, and btw, I loved Butterfly Tattoo!


Kat Mancos

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:13

Thanks, Deirdre for such an honest and knowledgable post. It is extremely frustrating to be able to hold your printed book in your hand, but have your own organization tell you you aren’t published because it wasn’t with the “right” publisher. I’ve never understood that stance, and I’m so glad I’m not alone.

-Kat


Leslie Dicken

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:14

I had my own blog post about this a few weeks ago, asking why RWA saw the $1000 advance as such an important benchmark in legitimacy.

This post is truly informative and thoughtful. Thanks so much, Deidre!


Susan Macatee

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:23

Great post, Deidre! I’m an author in the position of not being able to enter the Golden Heart, because my publisher is approved by RWA, but can’t enter the RITA, because my publisher doesn’t offer an advance and doesn’t mass produce books. I only renewed my RWA membership this year so I could remain a member of one of my online RWA chapters.


Gwen Hayes

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:25

Thank you. I heart eloquence.


Katie Reus

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:27

Thanks for such an informative, well written post! I think you’ve been able to perfectly articulate what a lot of us RWA members are feeling.


Dana Frye

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:28

As I am, of date, an un-published ‘wanna be’ Author, let me comment from a readers view.

Though this is quite a simpletons view, I can say with the upmost certainty, that I have read MANY fabulous e-books with stories that took me away and into other worlds. Beautiful, creative and colorful stories that regardless the layout, were stories created and written by a person that I TITLE as an ‘ Author’.

For anyone, regardless of whom, to imply that those ‘persons’ were NOT legitimate Authors, is completely appalling!


Sela Carsen

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:33

Thank you so much for this thoughtful commentary, Deirdre. It consistently baffles me to see how RWA ignores content in favor of format. I though telling a good story was the important thing. Silly me.


Angeleque Ford

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:34

Thanks for the excellent post.


Judy

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:43

Thank you so much for your thoughtful insights into changing times in the publishing industry. I have two contracts for print books which will be epublished first. Because of RWA’s stance on the latter, I decided against membership even though I would enjoy the fellowship of a local chapter. We must all be amenable to change when it is called for.


Kelly Jamieson

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:45

Thank you Deidre for posting here today about this important topic and for so eloquently expressing the frustrations so many of us are feeling. As one of the authors caught in the middle of the “too published to enter the Golden Heart” and “not published enough to enter the RITA”, the RWA position on epublishing has long been a source of mystery and confused logic to me, especially, as you’ve noted, in the face of a changing industry.


Natalie J. Damschroder

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:51

I’m grateful for a post like this that takes a pretty good look at the complexities of this issue. So many people focus on the extremes–I think the Triskelion disaster alone shows that it’s not a matter of “in or out” or “legitimate or not.” Just like there are NY publishers that struggle to pay their authors, or engage in business practices that are not in the authors’ interests, there are e-publishers that do a tremendous job, have an excellent business model, and do right by their authors. Unfortunately, for every one of those good ones, there are many fly-by-night operations (or just ones run by shortsighted or inexperienced people) that cheat us. It’s not easy for an organization of 10,000 members to pat us on the back for getting someone to publish a book for us and, at the same time, try to protect us from losing everything. (I’m an e-published author who’s dealt with four different e-publishers, and I’m one of the “masses” who hasn’t made much–$1200 for SEVEN non-erotic full-length novels over 9+ years; we’re not a myth.)

I have issues with the current RWA board and its approach to this matter–primarily, that while it’s RWA’s job to educate, support, and advocate for us, it’s NOT RWA’s job to judge us–but I wonder why I don’t see the same outcry against other genre organizations that won’t even let us join? Am I just not looking in the right places?


Deborah Brent

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:54

Here! Here!


Tessa Dare

in June 15th, 2009 @ 06:55

Thank you, Deidre! Well said. I too hope that RWA will open its mind about e-publishing and royalty-based business models. Digital publishing has so much to offer the genre and its authors: creative freedom, market growth, and continued royalties from backlist titles, just to start. Instead of dismissing all e-publishers, why not advocate for best practices and public sales figures, thereby helping members make informed decisions?


Dara England

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:03

Thank you, Ms. Knight, for speaking up for a large number of e-authors who, seemingly, have little voice in RWA.


Shelli Stevens

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:16

Thank you, Deidre for you post. You made so many great point and voiced so many of our frustrations. As president of my local chapter (Seattle) I try and make all my members feel supported and special. No matter what type of publisher they write for! And I’m often the one cushioning the blow of RWA’s latest changes, letters in the RWR, or anything hits back at an e-published author. I myself write for Samhain and Kensington, and I would have it no other way. I love them both, and I’m very curious to see how my readership transfers over to my NY release next month.

Diane’s letter made me really sad when I saw it. Most likely because I had the chance to hear her speak and get to know her a bit when she spoke at the leadership retreat in San Francisco. I thought she was funny and smart, and would definitely be more open to supporting everyone and not just the same old, same old. Unfortunately she proved me wrong.

But thank you once more for a fabulous post! And thanks to Kristen for bringing Deidre in!


Loretta Rogers

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:18

Thank you Kristen for inviting Deidre to voice her thoughts on the upward swing of digital publishing . I was disheartened by D. Pershing’s adamant stance in the July RWR against epublishers. RWA’s stand against epublishing has created a trickle down effect. Unless an epublished/print author or small press author can prove they have received a $1000 advance or have earned $1000 in sales (PAN status), then that author can’t participate in booksignings with their local RWA affliate chapter. Which in turn creates lost opportunities for that author to sell books, earn toward royalties, and become a visible face to the public.


Rhonda Penders

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:25

Deidre, thank you so much for that informative information. Its good to know that there are others out there who are pulling for us “little guys” and helping to promote the change that is desperately needed. I applaud your stance and thank you for voicing it so eloquently.

Rhonda Penders
co-owner The Wild Rose Press and White Rose Publishing


Marianne Evans

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:35

BRAVO. I couldn’t have possibly expressed it any better! Thank you!


Sandy Wickersham-McWhorter

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:37

The only reason I haven’t left RWA after that horrendous price hike this year is my local chapter! If it weren’t for my local chapter, I wouldn’t be published by The Wild Rose Press, which did get RWA recognized status. My two books with TWRP have received rave reviews which astonished me, but it’s all because of my local chapter, not RWA. I wish to heaven that they’d never made it a rule that to belong to them I had to join RWA. When RWA was cheaper I didn’t care as much, THEN their dues started going up. Even my magazine, the only benefit of RWA that I really have time for due to family issues, doesn’t come on time or regularly. It gets very frustrating at a time when I could use the cheering up the magazine gives me when I read it while waiting for my MIL to see her doctor, hairdresser, etc, or for my son to shop or eat out after kidney dialysis (when I don’t have a WIP chapter to edit on paper). I’ve built up enough of a network of contacts now that if RWA raises their dues again I will be dropping them like a hot potato-cliche intended!


Cherrie Lynn

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:39

Thank you, Deidre. Your post was everything that needed to be said.


Lise Horton

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:46

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I am so relieved and thankful to see such a coherent argument for revisiting RWA’s stand on e-publishing and for decrying their current stance. I have long been crying in the wilderness (that’s how it felt, anyway) that the e-publishing revolution has begun but RWA is stubbornly refusing to accept it. However, given my relative inexperience in the industry, I did not have the serious heft to back up my claims that RWA was fast leaving a huge portion of its loyal membership in steerage on a figurative Titanic. I even at one time formulated a mathematical example of the differences between a traditional advance against royalties scenario and an e-publishing royalties scenario. To no avail. I have watched RWA’s apparent “protectionism” stance of its e-pubbed authors turn to a distinctly exclusionary one. Even the tone of RWA National – as voiced by its President, Diane Pershing – indicates that both a serious discriminatory attitude, as well as organization re-structuring, are being promulgated in RWA. Given that the daily industry news on every publishing front more than bears out your argument, Ms. Knight, I am quite frankly aghast at RWA’s willful ignorance of these publishing changes. I applaud your argument and your call for not simply recognition by RWA of the e-published author and publishers, but for them to step up and become an active participant in these changes.


Leslie Dicken

in June 15th, 2009 @ 07:53

Tessa said: “Instead of dismissing all e-publishers, why not advocate for best practices and public sales figures, thereby helping members make informed decisions?”

AMEN, SISTAH! Instead, they are not allowing for workshops which would discuss such things. WTF?


Liane Gentry Skye

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:07

Fantastic article and timely, well supported points. Thank you, Deidre!


Laurie Newberry

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:11

Well said. As much as we all treasure the feel (and smell) of a good book it is time to realize e-books are here to stay. I am pleased to hear the positive side of the issue and to know there are clear benefits for those of us who write what we love.
Thank you for giving us a firm foundation from which to launch further discussions.


Angela James

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:20

@Sandy you said:

“The only reason I haven’t left RWA after that horrendous price hike this year is my local chapter! If it weren’t for my local chapter, I wouldn’t be published by The Wild Rose Press, which did get RWA recognized status.”

I have to correct this because I hear it frequently from Wild Rose editors/staff and authors and it’s misinformation, so I think it’s important that it be corrected because we need to be careful, as publishers, of how we represent our status within RWA so as not to be misleading to authors. Wild Rose did not get “recognized status” because there’s no such thing. When there was “recognized” status, there were only a handful of epublishers who qualified. Wild Rose wasn’t one of them. So either way, it’s incorrect information and the terminology being used should be corrected.

RWA has two categories: Eligible Publishers (of which no epublisher falls into due to the $1000 advance clause) and Non-Vanity/Non-Subsidy, which is where Wild Rose would fall along with some epublishers (I say some, because not all epublishers have been placed even on this list, due to issues RWA has with their contracts, which is a whole other dicussion).


Anna Small

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:26

Thank you, thank you for saying what we e-pubbed authors have known all along! Many of us believe that as long as we didn’t pay to have our books published, we are legitimately published authors, regardless of the venue. I’m glad that literary agents recognize the value of e-publishing. And, contrary to popular belief, it is not “easier” to break into e-pub than traditional. My editor worked with me for several months before offering a contract. I don’t think I would have gotten the same kind of attention in New York.


Chrissy

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:28

I applaud you, Ms. Knight.

If RWA was really representing all of its membership I would re-join. I let my membership lapse when I began seeing these disturbing trends. And I am NOT e-pubbed. I just respect fairness.

As membership dues increase, representation and equity decrease. Change is overdue.


Patt Mihailoff

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:31

I am famous as you, but I have been saying this very same thing about Digital publishing.
RWA will come board when they start losing members and MONEY, which is their only reason for being in this business. They promote no one.


Allie McKnight

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:31

Thanks for the support for the industry Dierdre. Many of Loose Id’s authors certain pass that $1000 benchmark and we have also consistently been denied participation in workshops by RWA.

Best,

Allie McKnight
http://www.loose-id.com


Gail Freeman

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:42

Thanks so much for you thought provoking post. As someone who has donated endless hours to RWA as editor of eNotes (I was presented the 2005 RWA Service Award) and as a chapter president, I have been feeling very disenchanted for several years. So much so that I and several other past chapter presidents have started a non-RWA group that embraces new technology. One of our core values is to inform all our members of the changes and to encourage our members to seek publication in all venues and to support them in whatever genre they chose. From a group of eight, since January our membership has grown to almost 150 members and includes a number of e published authors as well as several best selling print authors. It continues to astound me that RWA does not realize that good writing is good writing no matter what medium the author elects to use.


Marianne LaCroix

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:43

Thank you so much for this. I passed on the link to the RWA committee discussing this very thing. It is good to see an agent and NY author to support what I am saying, that epublishing can be a benefit to the members, and that you CAN make money even if it is NOT an advance.


Anna Small

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:44

After reading the comments here about so many authors leaving RWA, I wondered – what if every member (or a majority) of RWA wrote in and demanded that RWA change its ways regarding epublishers and epubbed authors? Surely, if a majority of the membership demanded change, RWA would have to bend with the times, since the stance is that they are representing the majority.


Jennifer McKenzie

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:46

You’ve summed this up beautifully. I appreciate your willingness to step out there for epublished authors.
When I came out with my first full length novel in epublishing, RWA changed the rules and I was confused. As a result, I still haven’t claimed my “First Sale”. But I’ve since realized that it doesn’t matter.
One of my author friends asked me why it was so important to be recognized by them.
I’m only a member now so that I can be a member of ESPAN and other local chapters. That’s where the gold is.
The only way to change the RWA’s attitude is from the inside and that’s what many of us will have to do.


Kate Pearce

in June 15th, 2009 @ 08:52

This is a great thoughtful article which highlights many of the inconsistencies of current RWA policy. I understand that RWA truly wants to stand up for its writers, but I suspect they are not looking at the whole picture or keeping up with the current trends.. I’m e-published, small press published and NY published and I like writing for them all :)


T Sue VerStedr

in June 15th, 2009 @ 09:07

Wow, all I can say is, “bravo!”


azteclady

in June 15th, 2009 @ 09:15

WORD!!!

I am just a reader (no ambitions to write, ever) but this attitude from RWA offends my sense of fair play.


Cassidy McKay

in June 15th, 2009 @ 09:28

Bravo! Thank you for this timely and well-written article. E-publishing is definitely growing and print publishers realize the growing audience it provides. I just wish RWA would as well.


Rachel Kenley

in June 15th, 2009 @ 09:32

Thank you, Deirdre, for this wonderful and well presented post. It is for the situation you’ve explained that I have not rejoined RWA even though I am now published in the romance genre. When I pay to be part of a member organization, I want to be part of one that understands and supports the work I – and many others – do. Until RWA does that, I will join other places.

Thank you, too, for mentioning IDPF.org. I am definitely going to check them out.

You’re awesome!

Sincerely,
Rachel Kenley, author


Louisa Edwards

in June 15th, 2009 @ 09:32

Thank you for this well reasoned, articulate response to an issue that is such an emotional hot button for many. And with good reason; I can’t even imagine how hard it must be to hear that the president of an organization to which you pay money thinks that your contribution to publishing is invalid and sub-par. In times like these, with every organization and company out there struggling for money, you’d think RWA would err on the side of inclusivity rather than alienation. Hopefully this blog post will spark some useful discussion! Looks like it already has…


Caridad Pineiro

in June 15th, 2009 @ 09:49

Thanks, Deidre for your analysis and support of those who e-publish.

I’ve watched this debate for years and cannot understand the RWA policy. First Sales to e-publishers who do not pay advances are listed in the RWR, but such sales do not make the author eligible for PAN until the $1000 limit is reached. Then if an author reaches the $1000 limit, I understand that their books may not be eligible for the RITA because they are not “mass-produced.” The contradictions in these actions are troubling.

If I my understanding of the RITA rules is correct, even my Nocturne Bite from Harlequin would not be eligible until it became “mass-produced” (translation “in print”). So after over 20 books with various traditional NYC houses and a few years as a member in PAN, I now have a novella that may not eligible for the RITA because it is an e-book?

My RWA renewal notice came in the mail the other day and I’ve been considering for days whether or not I should renew. As some have said, if not for participation in local chapters, I probably would not renew because of these policies toward e-pubs.

Are there organizations out there that don’t have such policies? I’m sure there are others and I’m a founding member of one such organization – The Liberty States Fiction Writers (www.lsfwriters.com or http://www.libertystatesfictionwriters.com). When we decided to form a new writing organization, we also decided that it would be an organization that supported and embraced those who were e-published.

I hope that with your voice and the voices of others, RWA will reconsider these contradictory and exclusionary policies toward those who e-publish.

Thanks again for your comments!


Marianne LaCroix

in June 15th, 2009 @ 10:40

I know epublished authors can and do make money epublishing. The Board is calling for “hard numbers” too back the claims. If anyone is willing to turn in their numbers (as in income for 2008 as claimed on taxes), that would help. If you wish to turn them in to me privately, email to me at marilacroix @ yahoo.com (no spaces). I will keep your identity confidential.

Also, if any epublished author can tell me exactly what they want from RWA, please email me that as well. I mean, what do we all want? How can the RWA show support for the epublished members? Does it come down to the RITAs or is there something else?

Seriously, send me your info. I am one of your reps on the Industry Changes committee, and I NEED input to back me up…in turn, backing up the epublished community.


Johnny Ray

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:06

I think Deidre handled this extremely well. It is going to be so interesting to see what effect this will have on future conventions.

Johnny Ray


Dawné Dominique

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:09

An informative and truly inspiring post.


Jennifer Colgan

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:10

Excellent post! I let my membership to RWA lapse for the same reasons stated by others here. I didn’t feel RWA really represented my interests as an e-published author. I’m another one whose unpublished works were not eligible for the Golden Heart and published works were not eligible for the RITA despite being available in print.

With so many electronically published authors now, we’re becoming a force to be reckoned with, and to continue to downplay our achievements, our earnings and our career choices is short-sighted to say the least.


J.C. Wilder

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:16

As one of the ‘old’ broads’ of the epub world, RWA hasn’t altered their stance on epubs one iota in the past 10 years. They don’t understand the business model, they make rash leaps to judgement and they work so hard to be exclusive rather than inclusive that they’ve earned a reputation as a koffee klatch rather than a serious writers organization.

Since RWA insists upon using income as a determining factor for legitimacy – does this mean an author published with Five Star is ‘less’ legitimate than an author with Harlequin? One makes a lot less money than the other.

I’ve never understood their heel dragging and constant protests about epublishing. Back when Harold Lowery was president of RWA, he called me to request the scoop on epublishing and the early ‘publisher’ status from RWA.

From the tone of his comments I knew he wasn’t on the side of small presses so I didn’t waste a lot of breath. One of many things that blew his mind was about the publisher ‘requirements’ RWA had implemented version 1.0 and the epub world was in an uproar. By that time my publisher had applied for recognition and was denied because RWA wanted to see customer records to PROVE the sales were what they were. Since distribution channels didn’t exist back then RWA decided it was the only way to ‘verify’ the sales. My publisher, brilliant woman that she is, said to them “bite me”. After going through that nonsense, I told the prez that .50 and RWA recognition wouldn’t buy me a cup of coffee. He was stunned when he realized that many of us didn’t care what RWA had to say about ebooks.

We have an ISBN, we get checks, we’re published so there you go.


Jacs1

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:26

Thank you for this eloquent and forthright blog. As an aspiring to be published writer, RWA’s stance on epublishers has my head shaking in disbelief. This is the 21st century and in the words of Mr. Dylan — “The times they are a-changin’”


Melissa Blue

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:30

I hope after this RWA starts to listen with an open-mind.


Delilah Marvelle

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:42

Finally. The voice of reason has arrived in the industry.


Jody Wallace

in June 15th, 2009 @ 11:55

Thanks for speaking up, Diedre. The most distressing part of that letter for me was the statement that RWA had obviously failed to educate its members because members were still signing with small presses — not to mention the implication that nearly all small press authors are nothing but hobbyists whose career choices endanger the paths of serious authors.


Shayla Black

in June 15th, 2009 @ 12:12

Very sage and well put. This echoes the sentiment of so many RWA members I talk to who feel as if leadership is not only burying their heads in the sand, but actively going out of their way to alienate the members who disagree in the hopes they’ll leave the organization.

The graphical standards fiasco made RWA a punchline at the time, and the board quickly backed away. I keep hoping for a reversal in this situation, but it’s irony that, I’m not sure we’ll be seeing a HEA with regard to RWA’s treament of the digital medium anytime soon.


Gina Black

in June 15th, 2009 @ 12:30

Thank you for this post, Deidre. This is my last year as an RWA member because I am not willing to pay annual dues to an organization that doesn’t represent my best interests. RWA no longer fulfills the important niche it did when I first found them in 1993. It’s time for them to move forward instead of clinging to an old publishing paradigm. If it weren’t for local groups, I wonder how many members would stay.


Michelle (MG) Braden

in June 15th, 2009 @ 12:59

Thank you, Deidre, for allowing ESPAN to post your very eloquent words. I think you have concisely and rationally pointed out the issues and I hope that it will be a step towards change. That is what ESPAN hopes to do. We cannot rush in wildly to change things, but with slow, sure steps we’d like to think that a change will come.

ePublished and small press authors are still authors, deserving of the same benefits from RWA as NYC pubbed authors. Why not let epubbed/pod books be entered into the Ritas? Why not let them stand on their own against NYC pubbed books? Wouldn’t the proof be in the pudding then? Some ebooks/small press books will be great, some won’t. I don’t see how that’s any different from print books. Not all are great. Not all deserve to win. Just because something is written and produced on paper doesn’t make it an inherently better product.


Cynnara Tregarth

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:07

What a fantastic and insightful post. Thanks to Deidre and to you, Kristen. Thank you for saying what many of us e-published authors have been saying and proving for years!


Deidre Knight

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:12

Thanks so much, everyone! I am away with my family on a mini-break, so haven’t been able to post until now. But I have been following all the incredibly supportive comments via Blackberry all day. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate knowing that all of you are behind me on this issue. T

Please encourage your friends and fellow e-published authors and/or readers to post here. I think the more people who post, the more it can serve as a kind of petition or call for change. Our voices, as a collective, will surely show that many of us are concerned!

THANK YOU! I appreciate all of these comments very much.
Deidre Knight


Lisa Pietsch

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:22

Several of the authors at Sapphire Blue Publishing have been discussing these same points. While 95% of us are RWA members, many of us are considering discontinuing our membership simply because of RWA’s recent comments about e-publishers and e-published authors. Thank you, Kristen and Deidre!


Grace Draven

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:24

Wonderful article, Deidre, and touches on so many of the weaknesses plaguing RWA. I let my membership last year after I sat down and did a cost analysis of what I paid to the organization and what I got back from them. Considering all the valid, free and excellent information available on the net from industry professionals, I had a hard time justifying the expense of the RWR

My daily schedule precludes me joining local chapters, and I’m lucky enough to already have a strong support network of authors and critique partners outside of the RWA. The national convention is pricey. I went once. Worth the trip. One trip. I’m not really interested in any more so don’t feel I’m missing out.

Someone here asked why there’s not more questions and protests about organizations who don’t let you join at all if you don’t meet specific criteria. I can only speak for me, but I bristle at RWA’s exclusionary tactics because they’re limited in scope. They’re very egalitarian about taking your money. It’s once you’ve paid up that the pecking order is put into place. For me, if you charge me the same amount you charge everyone else, I want the same benefits and access. Otherwise, drop the registration fee or offer it in gradations. The less you pay, the less you get.

Supposedly, a large portion of the money tied up in individual membership is due to the publication of the RWR. With all my expenses, I have a hard time justifying that kind of an expense for a magazine that doesn’t tell me anything I can’t find on the net. Oh, wait. There is the president’s letter which, while I still received the RWR, usually made my blood boil. And I paid for this?

I find it ironic that for an organization which touts support of writers of a genre so often ridiculed and considered subpar, illigetimate and not “real”, the RWA board embraces this same view on a smaller scale and practices the same.

Deidre, as an industry professional, your voice carries a lot of weight in a situation like this. Thank you for speaking up and presenting us with such a great article. I have no intention of returning to RWA myself. Too expensive and utterly useless to me. However, I hope your remarks make RWA Nat’l listen, take note and maybe work harder to support the people it claims to represent instead of excluding them.


Laura Baumbach

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:33

The tone and content Of Dian Pershing’s letter is appalling for a professional organization’s president. I found it condescending, arrogant and rude. It represents RWA as if it were a college sorority where money (dues) can buy a pledge spot but only the elite (NY Published) can enjoy and benefit from the associated rewards –like the RITAS or being deemed ‘acceptable publishers’ — instead of an organization of made of career-minded professionals.

Her statements about representing ‘what is good for the general RWA membership as a whole’ is a respectable concept but I don’t see how she can claim it is her true goal when she is working feverishly to deny the membership access to any information about the ever growing segment of romance publishing in ePublishing.

Why isn’t she/RWA reporting that many NY published authors are now also writing for epublishers to supplement their income while they wait out their advances. Why isn’t she/RWA telling our members how to use epublishing to reach new readers/expand their reader base?

If education is RWA’s weak point as she states, then arrange workshops on the mystery topic of epublishing and help dispel the myths and shadows. If RWA is all about the good of the general membership then presenting all aspects of available avenues for an author (the general membership) to honing their craft, expanding their creative borders, and reaching possible new readerships should be a her/ RWA’s top priority.

Who pays the $1000+ advance is focusing on publishers, rewarding them with RWA status, not the author. If an author gets a $1000 advance and never earns it out, IMO that author is less entitled to it that an author who earns it legitimately through actual sales of their work. So what did that $1000 means if the work never earned it? How does that make that author better than the one who did earn it with actual sales? Or that publisher who pay up front smarter or more prestigious than one who paid it a month after the book released?

I not criticizing the NY publishing model, I’m saying RWA is denying their members important career information. Authors are intelligent, people. Given ALL the information is the only way they can make informed decisions about their career. RWA board memebrs shouldn’t be making it for them by banning legitimate, reputable publishers, ebook or otherwise, from conferences.


Deb Kinnard

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:34

Deidre, thank you for weighing in on this. I let my RWA membership lapse after several years. I wasn’t an inactive member, either — I served as a chapter officer for several years. As an e-book/small press author I was never made to feel equal with the others who sold. At the time I left, I can honestly say that after 5 sales, I was considered less “published” than the author who sold one project to Harlequin and then abandoned writing for other endeavors.

However, I see a lack of direction on what e- and small-press published authors would like to see RWA do. That said, here are some suggestions:
1. A contracted project sold to a royalty paying publisher is a sale. Period.
2. The contract drives status, not the medium.
3. No advance is necessary. No author need verify his/her sales in order to qualify for PAN status or Rita entry.
4. Authors are eligible either for the Rita or for the Golden Heart. There is no in-between, “semi-published” status.
5. No royalty paying publisher shall be asked to provide data on advances or sales. No royalty paying publisher shall be required to apply for recognition or anything similar.
6. Any standards adoped will stand for a minimum of two years, to allow their adoption uniformly through the industry.

How’s that for specifics?


Kate Douglas

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:37

I was more than a little irritated with the president’s letter in the latest RWR, especially the comment that RWA is refusing to acknowledge epublishers because they are looking out for the membership as a whole. I’d like to know what that sanctimonious sounding phrase is based upon.

I got my start as a published author through epublishing back in 1998 when a lot of people had never heard of ebooks. I had excellent editing, a contract that put me, as the author, in a strong position, and distribution and sales were and continue to be excellent.

Has RWA ever taken a poll of all members to see what percentage of the overall membership is published electronically and how much they earn? I would venture to say that most digital contracts out of NY (those that are part of a standard print contract) offer a much smaller percentage royalty on digital versions of a book than what the average ebook publisher pays. When I first signed with NY, before print publishers realized the value of digital releases, my percentage on the digital releases of my titles was a lot higher, but I’ve seen that drop as NY learns to recognize the value of digital books. Small presses/ebook publishers pay a much higher percentage royalty on ebook sales. Plus, they generally have better distribution than that offered by publishers whose primary focus has always been print. Why is their validity—or lack thereof—based on whether or not they pay an advance? An advance is merely a loan against future earnings when it comes down to it—it is no longer as valid a benchmark of an author’s success.

RWA—at the national level—is digging itself an even deeper hole with an elitist position that disenfranchises a vast number of their members. If it weren’t for my chapter memberships that offer the information, networking and support every author needs, I would have dropped my membership ages ago.


Catherine Bybee

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:44

Well said, Deidre. I let my RWA membership go this year for this very reason. I have five future releases with the e-publishing world and wanted desperately for RWA to acknowledge my work. They had no problem cashing my check, but ‘please don’t enter your full length time travel for the RITA because it’s being published with an e-press.’
Until more minds change with the organization, I’ll spend my $100.00 a year on my own promotion.


Robin L. Rotham

in June 15th, 2009 @ 13:55

Thank you, Deidre, for this much-needed booster shot of hope and faith!


Mary Ricksen

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:01

well said!!!!


Mickey Flagg

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:05

Brava, Ms. Knight. I’m proud of the house that published my first book and I hope to stay with them long after my second release. Inclusion is a buzz word in education. However, in order for it to be fully implemented one must address systemic change. I signed two contracts, then I joined RWA. In my local chapter, the support is palpable for every author. But on the national level, separate and unequal comes to mind. My dues are equal to your dues, and reaping full benefits should be a given. This isn’t just about a contest. It’s about acceptance and validatiion for those of us who sent the query, followed the process and saw our stories through to publication – in either form. Your voice is strong. Maybe RWA will take note and really listen. Thanks for speaking out.


Pam Champagne

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:06

You go girl! Thanks a million for voicing what’s in so many minds.


Natasha Moore

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:10

Thanks for a thoughtful, insightful post. I agree RWA should be using its many resources to educate its members on the many opportunites afforded by epubs and small press instead of dismissing them as nothing more than dishonest businesses preying on authors who desperately want to sell their manuscripts. Yes, there are some to watch out for – hey, RWA, how about giving us that information instead of dismissing them all.


Jessica Lee

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:13

Well said, Deidre! Thanks so much for voicing so eloquently what many of us are experiencing and feeling. I appreciate it very much. Hopefully, one day, RWA will step into the 21 century and see what a huge market they are so easily dismissing.


Savanna Kougar

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:19

Deidre, a thousand thank yous for saying the obvious in such an easy-to-understand way.
I recently had a title become PAN eligible because of royalties. But, no, I won’t apply for membership because of how small print authors are being treated. Besides, right now, it’s just a waste of my valuable time. I could be writing instead of messing with the current misguided elitism. When that is corrected, I would love to join.


Anglea Knight

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:21

Bravo, Deidre! If you look at the current NY Times Bestseller lists, you will find any number of authors who were e-published first. I am one of them, but so is Lora Leigh and MaryJanice Davidson, just to name two I am personally friends with. All three of us had a large following that had discovered us while we were e-book authors.

I truly believe that RWA’s distaste for e-publishing has more to do with the type of content than the advances. If these e-books were regencies or sweet romance instead of erotic romance, I strongly suspect we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. The faction that opposes e-book authors most strongly seem to be the same people who have a distaste for the sexual content more than anything else.

Best,
Angela Knight


Kat O'Shea

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:34

Hear, hear!! Well said, Deidre!!

As an editor for a e-book/print publisher, I know many big name authors who write for e-publishers under pseudonyms because those royalties, rather than advances & NY royalties, are their main source of income. With many NY publishing houses, an author is lucky to get 3-6 months of sales before the book is replaced by another wave of titles. Not only do e-publishers pay a much larger share of royalties than print publishers, but books on the backlist continue to sell indefinitely & usually earn out a lot more money over time than most print titles.


Jeannie Ruesch

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:38

A wonderful post, Deirdre and hopefully something RWA will take into consideration. I find it sad and disconcerting that not a single digital publishing workshop was included.

I found Ms. Pershing’s June RWR Letter disappointing. It left me with a bitter taste that RWA has in fact drawn a trench in the sand and, as you said, are more concerned about defending their position and being RIGHT rather than being the best organization they can be.

Her comments suggesting that a lack of education led anyone in their membership to choose an e-pub or small press is elitist and insulting. RWA is going to fall behind the times if they continue to serve up this party line.


Ally Blue

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:41

Well said, Deidre, thank you :) When I read Ms. Pershing’s letter, I wondered if it was just me thinking these things. Evidently not LOL.

I’m no one’s best seller. I’m mid-list at best, published with Samhain and Loose Id (and a couple of print books with MLR **waves at Laura**). But I easily made the $1K requirement for PAN within 3 royalty statements, and I make more than enough to pay my daughter’s college tuition (state school, not private! LOL). TMI, maybe, but that’s just to show that while sure, plenty of people don’t make a lot in epublishing, I think the majority of us do pretty well. We might not be quitting our day jobs any time soon, but we’re just as career focused as the big names *g*

I joined RWA this year for one main reason: to learn the things I need to know to advance my career. I’m still hoping to do that, in spite of the apparent determination of some of the RWA powers that be to keep certain pertinent information from the membership at large. I’m in one chapter so far (Rainbow Romance Writers) and am planning to join Passionate Ink and attend nationals this year. Whether or not I renew my membership next year depends on how much I actually learn, and how helpful it all is. We’ll see…


katiebabs

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:47

I am an aspiring author and even though I think RWA is a great way to network and meet authors, as a group helping those get published, they fail in so many ways.

Why would RWA be so baised against another avenue for those to get published?

Great post.


Laurie J. Edwards

in June 15th, 2009 @ 14:56

Excellent post, Deidre!

And to some who commented that RWA’s stance on e-books is because of erotica, what about all of those who are e-pubbed in historical, sweet, or even G-rated YA?

I have been published under pseudonyms by both traditional and e-publishers and much prefer e-publishing. It’s faster and more immediate for readers, and I appreciate that my e-book will stay in print indefinitely.

Last year as print book revenues dwindled in many areas of the industry, e-books sales grew about 135%. Most major publishing conglomerates are now launching e-books to help offset their print losses. E-books are not only a legitimate medium for readers, they represent the wave of the future and will only continue to grow. With the proliferation of e-readers, i-phones, & laptops, anyone who doesn’t consider the future direction of publishing is concentrating on buggy wheels and whips as Deidre pointed out.

I know many former RWA members, myself among them, who are waiting for the organization to recognize all of our books as legitimate and reevaluate their stance by looking at overall earnings rather than royalties.


Carolyn Matkowsky/Cara Marsi

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:14

This is my second post, but I wanted to say thanks again to Deirdre. I am so glad that so many are speaking out against this elitist attitude of RWA. I believe a good deal of it is driven by some authors who objected to ebooks being allowed in the RITA, as they were year before last. As a member of PAN, I’ve been a RITA judge for about 5 years. I dropped out of judging this past RITA due to RWA;s elitist, and short-sighted attitude. I also have a POD book, so I felt the exclusion was a slap to me and all the other authors with ebooks. I’ve read many wonderful ebooks. And some print books that weren’t so wonderful. Just because a book is an ebook doesn’t mean that it’s somehow less a book. We’re all authors, regardless of which publisher we are with. Bravo, Deirdre


Maureen McGowan

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:16

Great, thoughtful post, Deidre.

To me, choosing a publisher (or which ones to submit to) has never been a matter of format (digital or print) but about my assessment of any given publisher’s ability to edit, publish and distribute a book well. That is, the ability to mould a book into the best it can be and then give it the best chance to get into the hands (or digital devices) of as many readers as possible.

RWA not including workshops on digital publishing goes against what I think the board should be trying to promote — educating its members about the options.

I didn’t know about this. Wow.

If there are no workshops on digital publishing, if members don’t have the opportunity to ask questions of the editors from these smaller publishers in a public forum, then how will the members obtain a better understanding of their options?

That said… I think the $1000 in royalties rule for PAN eligibility is as an objective a cut-off as any. (Especially as that’s the cut-off they use for advances for the print publishers.) It doesn’t have to be an advance, so I’m not sure I got your timing of payment argument.


Maddie James

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:19

Thank you, thank you, thank you. So well said and exactly on target.


Sandra Kay

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:19

Thank you, Deidre, for a great post. It’s nice to hear your well-thought out statements on this controversial subject. I was very disappointed when I wasn’t considered published enough to enter the RITA, but too published to enter the Golden Heart.


Carol Ann Erhardt

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:21

Applause, applause! Thank you, Diedre, for speaking out on the issue of RWA’s stance on epubs. I have tried hard to understand, but it’s difficult. See, I love being epubbed. I receive a higher royalty, my publisher is fantastic to work with, and I enjoy being able to promote from my home office without having to go on the road often to do booksignings…although I do that occasionally. As a published (epubbed) authors, I fall between the cracks. I’m not considered published in the eyes of RWA, however, because I am epubbed, I’m not allowed to enter the Golden Heart because I am pubbed. **shrug** Not such a big deal except for the fact that I pay the same dues as the other members. And, what I get from that is the ability to join my local writing chapter. I gain tons of support and a wealth of information from my fellow members, both published and non-published. If not for that, I wouldn’t continue to pay the astronomical fees to RWA.
The digital world has evolved. Wake up RWA and truly take ALL your members into consideration. I am not a second class author, though I’m made to feel that way.


Kathye Quick

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:22

Thanks for saying what all of us have tried to say, but were either ignored or dismissed by RWA. I for one am thinking hard about renewing my RWA membership and dropped of New Jersey Romance Writers for similar differences.

The tighter RWA closes its fist around this issue, the more good writers will slip through their fingers and leave the group. The future is coming with or without RWA. POD will become AOD (Author on Demand) as more bookstores close for economic reasons. Book warehousing will be done on the wekk and in electronic warehouses.

E publishing gave me my start and I have found a home in print publishing because of it. I embrace both venues, as what I write fits each one perfectly in its own way.

I have also found a wonderful new group – Liberty States Fiction Writers – an organization that embraces and welcomes writers of all genres and understands that a book can be a viable publication in either form – print or electronic, and it is the writing, not the format that makes it good. Come check us out on the web. Google us. You’ll be glad that you did.


Terry Odell

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:23

Thanks for this post. I remember my first RWA conference not that many years ago, where a Harlequin editor spoke at the PRO retreat. She said she looked at publishing credits, and that being e-published definitely counted. At the time, I had a contract offer from a major e-publisher, and asked her if she thought I should accept it. She said, “Definitely.”

I’m published with two e-publishers and a small press, and I do feel like the red-headed stepchild all too often.


Elisa Jankowski

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:32

Well said, Deidre! Obviously, there are several ePublishers out there that are doing great things for authors and themselves. I know as a reader, I spend just as much money on ePubs as I do print books – and ease of access is a major factor in that.

ePublishing isn’t perfect and there are many things the publishers must work out as well, like to DRM or not to DRM, but the fact is I can still get great books without having to leave my home. ePublished authors have just as much right to recognition in places like RWA as anyone else.

I’ve been working on writing for some time and though I’ve been encouraged to join my local chapter of RWA, I’ve held off because of this issue. Why would I want to become a member of an organization if I may not be ‘good enough’ to be recognized for my work for many years? I know there’s a lot of support in the local chapters, but shouldn’t it be more of a trickle-down thing than local chapters cleaning up the national mess?

Thanks again!


Lynn Lorenz

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:43

Here! Here! Deidre!
Two years ago I attended the general meeting in Dallas and witnessed the uproar RWA caused with some of its odd policies. After attending I wrote the woman who was president then, telling her that as a newbie, I could easily see the fractures forming among the membership and that if RWA wasn’t careful, they would disenfranchise numbers of their members.

This year, I seriously thought of not renewing, but then, in another odd turn of events, RWA recognized the Rainbow Writers chapter for GLBT works. Something I’d hoped for but didn’t seriously believe would happen. (Hats off and much thanks to Laura Baumbach and others who made that happen) Wow! I thought, a change is a’comin’!

Then I opened my RWR and read the presidents column and had to wonder what was up with this organization.

Division/elitism is being encouraged by the board, and from what I can see it centers around the “erotic” and “alternative” genres. Altho I have some supporters in my own local chapter, I have had to struggle to be recognized – from having my covers placed on the website – to having a PAL (publ. author liason) to read and review my books – to answering why I’m insulted when I’m called “self-published.”

It seems that the board members stay up at night thinking of ways to change words and policies, all with their lawyer’s approval, to exclude something that I can only think must be extremely threatening to them.

This in not the way to enlarge membership and open the way to allow authors, no matter where they publish, from earning money.
And with each such article, policy or stand, it pushes me farther and farther away.


Jeannie Ruesch

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:48

Okay, I’m going to add another comment here. I absolutely understand the many people in the epub and small press world debating on whether or not to continue membership with RWA. And I do believe there is something to be said for the concept of watching their membership numbers go down — but would that be enough to affect any sort of change?

There is a lot about RWA I love. I love connecting and feeling connected with other writers and authors. I love the conference. I love my chapter. I consider RWA INVALUABLE to me in getting published — yes, with a small press. They connected me to people who made a difference in my life, ones I would not have meet otherwise. I learned process, I learned about publishing. I learned a tremendous amount from this organization.

As a whole, RWA has some changes to make, and I’m disappointed at their stance right now. But because I do see so much value in this organization for writers, I think it’s worth sticking around. It’s worth joining this chapter (which I just did today), it’s worth attending the conference and making it known that I want to see more digital publishing aspects there. It’s worth it to me.

It may not be worth it to some– but before you drop out, I ask you to consider what your goal is. To have RWA recognize epubs and small presses in a more current way?

Then the best way to have that happen is to stay involved. Join ESPAN… as the ranks of this chapter rises, as the number of people in RWA start demanding change, start talking about it — it will be harder to ignore. More difficult to say that leaving epubs and small presses OUT of the equation is best for “the membership at large.”

Start emailing RWA and asking for what we want. When conference rolls around, and the lack of digital publishing workshops is recognized, we should be writing them. Emailing them. Posting about it. Talking about it.

Just my two cents. :)


Kelly S. Bishop

in June 15th, 2009 @ 15:56

I just emailed the link to this blog to the RWA board pres, pres elect, secretary & treasurer along with my own note.

I hope they do wake up before it’s too late. Otherwise, another writer’s organization will emerge to fill the void & RWA will become an irrelevant dinosaur. And that would be a shame.


Sandy

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:04

Deidre,

I totally share your opinion about RWA and epublishing.

One other thing I might add is that by going digital, we’ll be helping our environment by saving our trees.

Thank you,

Sandra K. Marshall
Epublished Author


Deidre Knight

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:07

Jeanne,
Forgive me if I’m misspelling your name. I’m reply from blackberry and it is hard to navigate, so couldn’t double check. Anyway, your point is excellent!I, too, love so much about RWA. And as someone else noted, they should be applauded for approving the new Rainbow Chapter. One of our only hopes for making a change in this area is by getting involved in discussions like this one and by championing change. I would recommend that those of you who are commenting here also write RWA. I believe that by letting know the board you are unhappy, or that you have left RWA–or are thinking about it–that your words will matter. I did email with Diane Pershing this weekend, after writing the blog, and will say that I believe she and the board are open to hearing from RWA members. Although we did not agree, she was fair and lovely to communicate with.
Thanks
Deidre


Deidre Knight

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:13

Great point about the green nature of e-books. I considered including that in this article, but because it wasn’t specifically relevant, did not.

Thanks for pointing it out. By the way, I’m also a massive reader of e-pubbed books! I didn’t mention that either!


Patti

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:22

I couldn’t have said this better. As a “former” ten year loyal veteran of the NJ chapter all I can say to RWA is this: Ladies wake up and smell the coffee. If you don’t reconsider and rescind what you said, you stand to loose a great deal of members and it won’t end until RWA falls to the ground. No one will take you seriously especially now after you have chosen to insult the e-book industry…unless you change and soon don’t expect me to place money in your organization anytime soon. It is for this very reason I canceled my membership.

Bravo Deidre for your great insight on this subject.


Katie Michaels

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:23

Bravo! Maybe those going to the RWA Convention in DC need to come up with a symbol of solidarity (small placard or something inexpensive and easy to make and carry) showing RWA that we want change in this area! Imagine the power–a sea of those symbols at some plenary session. (I guess they have plenary sessions. Haven’t been to one. Just joined in March, but am totally pursuing e-books for my own work. It’s not the wave of the future–IT’S HERE NOW! Wake up RWA!


K.M. Daughters

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:34

Bravo Deirdre! And many thanks.


Clare Austin

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:39

Thank you Deidre, for supporting us all as we venture into the future of writing and publishing. I have three books under contract with a publisher who does both electronic and paper editions and felt rather insulted that RWA sees me as someway inferior to “big house” published authors.
Clare
Butterfly, available August 2009 from The Wild Rose Press


Celia Yeary

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:41

Wow, what a wonderful article. You were spot on with every point. I dropped RWA this year because I am an e-pubbed author and felt shut out, receiving nothing for my $85 annual fees. And with the economy such as it is, I know for a fact that many authors have dropped out because of the cost–for nothing. Thank you, Celia


Jen Bluekissed

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:44

Amen!


Adele Dubois

in June 15th, 2009 @ 16:50

Brava! Thank you for a brilliant article.

Best–Adele Dubois
Ellora’s Cave Author


Dakota Cassidy

in June 15th, 2009 @ 17:05

Deidre–this was so spot on, it made me shout out, yes, yes, yes!

Deidre speaks the truth when she says there are built in advantages to being e-published. I’d built a fairly decent following when I was in e-books, and when Deidre sold my first books to Berkley, those were the people who followed me in droves to print. The beauty of those fans is they didn’t much care if i wrote a print book or an e-book–they still don’t. And those who found me via traditional means now buy my e-books, too :)

E-books launched my career. E-publishers took a chance on my crazy stuff–they taught me–they nurtured me, and I’d never even considered attempting traditional publishing when I began writing because I honestly didn’t understand the difference. Books were books to me.

I’d found e-books as a reviewer and wrote one sort of off the cuff. But that off the cuff MS turned into more e-books and to date, nine NY contracts. I’ll never forget my roots, and those roots are firmly entrenched in e-publishing.

So here, here to not only the validity of e-pubbed authors, but to joining forces and combining both venues of publication!

Dakota Cassidy :)


PG Forte

in June 15th, 2009 @ 17:25

I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that RWA’s main focus, at present, is protecting their tax-exempt status. Period. Since Ms. Pershing has previously defined ‘the industry’ as ‘publishers with wide distribution’ the only writers who are ‘truly focused on writing romances as a career’ are those who seek publication within the industry (i.e. with said publishers).

If actors were to follow the RWA approved craft/career approach, no one but hobbyists would ever work in summer stock an off-Broadway production or an independent film.

Personally, I’m happy with my career path. And I re-upped for membership last year because I do think there’s a lot about RWA that has value–this chapter, being a perfect example. However, when it comes to being recognized by the national organization as being a legitimately published author–I’m not holding my breath. I’m not losing any sleep over it, either.


Allison Knight

in June 15th, 2009 @ 17:26

Bravo Deidre! Marvelous defense of digital publishing. It seems New York is waking up to reality before some of its authors are willing to face the truth. Computers have changed the world and the digital revolution is here Now!

Allison Knight


Elaine Charton

in June 15th, 2009 @ 17:27

You have vocalized so brilliantly what so many of us are feeling. I have volunteered on the chapter level for many years. I receive unending support and encouragement from my chapters. However, I continue to feel like the poor stepchild. Because I am with a small press publisher.

This year, my friend is signing at the literacy autographing in DC. We always hoped to do this one year together. This is not to be the year, even though I have two book currently in print and a third due out later this year.

I have one question of everyone, when you tell someone you are a writer, what is the first thing out of thier mouth? Is it, “are you RWA Recognized?” When I tell people I am published, all they want to know is where they can buy my books.

Thank you Ms. Knight for your insight and intelligence, May it help RWA to see what is under thier noses, before it’s to late.


Adriana Kraft

in June 15th, 2009 @ 18:16

@ Nara Malone – There’s EPIC, The Electronically Published Internet Connection, at http://epicauthors.com/ – small but vital, it’s been a support and meeting place for e-pub authors, publishers and artists for twelve years, with an annual Con (Las Vegas, 2009; New Orleans, 2010) and annual awards in all book categories.


Autumn Shelley

in June 15th, 2009 @ 18:35

Deidre:
Thanks for the eloquence and representation. Hopefully, soon, this kind of discourse will lead to positive changes within RWA.


Melissa Blue

in June 15th, 2009 @ 18:46

Is it, “are you RWA Recognized?”

I laughed when I read this. Potential readers do not ask me this question. But, the point of this post, of the hubbub is that Romance Writers of America is an organization that most posters believed in. It’s the biggest organization that we believed had our interests in mind. One we paid money to be a part of. One that has many pros and those reasons are why some of us are still members.

Romance Writers of America on this issue does not have our interests in mind. I, and from the looks of it many others, want to change RWA’s stance. So, at the end of the day, this issue does matter. Readers may not know or care, but authors do.


Laure Bethel

in June 15th, 2009 @ 19:16

I am an inspirational author from The Wild Rose Press. Our own Rhonda Penders has been trying to negotiate with RWA on this same thing. Some day soon I believe they will wake up and smell the roses.


Jade Buchanan

in June 15th, 2009 @ 19:18

Thank you, Deidre, for a wonderful post. I agree with everything you’ve said here. I found Diane Pershing’s letter to be an eye-rolling adventure as I read it, mainly because it didn’t offer anything helpful, in my opinion. I wish she/RWA would provide more accurate information on e-publishing and the digital world to their members, and actually do a bit of research before coming out with sweeping statements.

I find it very unprofessional for her to come out with a statement that the e-publishing “business model is only favorable to the few–or even the several–who manage to sell enough books to make decent money” because it implies that you can only make “decent money” elsewhere. But, who determines what “decent” is? RWA?

The publishing world is not black and white, it is made up of shades of grey. Sure, many e-published author will not be able to support themselves full time, but I also know there are NY published authors that can’t support themselves full time either. To insinuate that there are only “a few” or “several” authors who can make money in e-publishing is a sweeping statement that I’d like to see her back up with numbers. I want them to present us with facts, not perceptions, and every statement she made in her letter seemed like her perception of the way things are. To me, that’s not how you run a business.

To be honest, if it weren’t for the friendships I’ve made in the chapters I belong to, or their approval of the Rainbow Romance Writers GLBT chapter, I’m not certain if I would still be a member of RWA. I became electronically published without their help, and I earned my PAN status with a 10K novella with a slightly dirty title. It makes me smile every time I think of what they must have thought when they saw my form come through.

They may believe they are an advocate for all their members, but by blatantly denying and rejecting a portion of their members, I really think they need to consider how truthful that advocacy really is.


Linda LaRoque

in June 15th, 2009 @ 19:49

Well said, Deidra. Your post expressed my feelings exactly.

Linda LaRoque
An epublished author


Evangeline Collins

in June 15th, 2009 @ 19:58

Fabulous post, Deidre!!

It’s definitely past time for RWA to embrace e-publishing as a very viable career path for authors, and to provide the educational tools, alongside those for NY print pubs, to help authors make informed decisions about their careers.

Best,
Evangeline Collins
Ava March


Cathleen Ross

in June 15th, 2009 @ 20:52

Thanks for this, Deidre. I think it is really interesting to see how the market is changing.
Best
Cathleen Ross


Maggie Jaimeson

in June 15th, 2009 @ 20:53

Deidre, thank you for giving both an agent’s and an author’s POV on this topic. Kristen, thanks for inviting Deidre to post. Now, I must take a slightly empathetic view to those on the RWA Board. Maybe I’m naive, but I believe that the majority of the Board truly wants to do the right thing AND that the majority of the Board continues to struggle with this issue and would welcome assistance. I personally know several Board members and I can say without hesitation that they DO NOT think of epubbed authors as second-class citizens and they do know that change has come. What they don’t have is a good way to tell who is legitimate and who isn’t because no one has come up with a plan.

I do agree that RWA needs to come into the 21st century. I do believe the epubs are growing by leaps and bounds, and that all NY publishers will have epub divisions within the next two to three years. However, rather than get mad at RWA and walk out, I think that as RWA members the best thing we can do is to help them define a fair means to determine which epubs make the grade and which ones don’t. I’m sorry, but IMO NOT every epub makes the grade.

Warning: Now comes the time when people might throw virtual tomatoes at me (if you haven’t already). It’s okay–red actually looks pretty good on me.

I DO agree that the $1000 threshold is not very much at all for a working author. I appreciate that RWA wants to help me make money on my writing and is pushing publishers to pay for my work. I do not want to sell a 80K to 100K book and make less than $1,000. I applauded when they changed the PAN membership rule to $1,000 earn out (not just advance) which allowed epub authors to become PAN members. Prior to that rule change there was no way to do so.

It is because of the past failures in epubs and the difficulty in determining who has a good reputation and who doesn’t that I have some empathy with those who are truly trying to protect authors. It was only two years ago (or was it three) that we had several major failures in the epub world. These failures left authors without royalties and in some cases tied up their work. I knew at least three people personally who were devastated by these failures. Though at least one of them eventually released rights, there was still no payment. This is scary and I think that memory is long. I must admit it kept me away from even sending anything to epubs until last year–and I’m still careful. Even more than making at least $1,000 off my work, I don’t want my work tied up forever in a failed company.

I have heard, anecdotally, that hundreds of authors regularly make $1000 or more earn outs on their epub books. I’d like to know where they are reporting these earnings. I track lots of places: Publisher’s Marketplace, PW, a variety of writer’s loops, and I don’t see it mentioned anywhere except by the same two or three people. I don’t see people reporting in droves to Brenda Hiatt either. Am I missing something? Let’s just take a moment to review Brenda Hiatt’s SHOW ME THE MONEY site. http://www.brendahiatt.com/id2.html

There are seven epubs listed where authors have reported their income.

Wild Rose Press $135 average earn out, 3 people reporting
Cobblestone, $200 average earn out, 7 people reporting
New Concepts $690 average earn out, 12 people reporting
Samhain $750 average earn out, 7 people reporting

Okay, that means four out of seven don’t earn out at $1,000 or above. I see first sales to these publishers all the time in the RWR. But how are they doing. I’ve heard great things about all four of these epublishers–wonderful editors, great covers, authors love them. These four pubs happen to publish a variety of genres (not just hot and sexy or erotica). But where’s the money? Why aren’t the authors for these publications reporting their great earnings?

Here are the one’s who are reporting $1,000 or above average earn outs.

Ellora’s Cave $3050 average earn out, 31 authors reporting
Loose ID $1550 average earn out, 4 authors reporting
Red Sage $2500 average earn out, 9 authors reporting

Unfortunately for me, all three of these epubs don’t fit with what I write because I don’t write erotica or really hot. Thus a dilemma. Now some of you may be saying something like “If all you care about is the money…” Okay, I admit that I want the money. I have a very busy life. I work 50+ hour per week and then take time away from my family to write. That means I need something to show for it. If I’m not going to get paid sufficiently by a publisher for my work (i.e., earn about $200 like some epubs) then I might as well self-publish, save the aggravation of rejections, and sell my writing to my friends and family. I have a large family (the oldest of 10 children) with lots of cousins. I have a sister who is a great artist and would do my covers for free. I could sell my 100 copies myself in the first week and make more than $200. So, why should I sell to them?

I know several people who are currently RWA Board members. These are good people who truly care about the members. They have told me over and over again that they receive very little email on these issues. They are looking for evidence. They are looking for a plan that helps them determine how to recommend epubs and protect authors, while holding to the purpose of making enough money on your writing. Does anyone have such a plan?

I exhort anyone who is upset about RWAs response to WRITE to them and offer evidence of regular payment and sales, AND a plan of how RWA might define epbus that do have a good reputation. If you are not going to define a reputation by sales and payment, then how do you define it? It certainly can’t be by quality–because one persons opinion of quality is another person’s crap.

I agree the industry is changing. I agree that RWA needs to find a way to help its members make educated decisions about their works, their rights, and the best way to move through a career. But it doesn’t happen overnight, and it certainly won’t happen if all we have is anecdotal evidence. Send your sales to Brenda Hiatt or some other reliable source. That is the way to prove your point and hasten the change.

My expertise is online learning. It took seven to ten years for most academics to change and accept that elearning was a legitimate way to earn a degree, and for some people the ONLY way to earn a degree. In academia you can tell the legitimate online programs from the diploma mills or low quality programs because their is an outside accrediting agency that accredits all schools (traditional and online). These accrediting agencies measure quality, student support, and make sure the college or university is living up to its promise.

In publishing there is no outside accrediting agency. That is the role RWA is trying to take on behalf of it’s members. If you care about epubs in romance, then help them figure it out.

I think we are just in the beginning third of the epub change. It wasn’t until last year that major print publishers began to embrace the concept (thank you Kindle marketing). Please don’t give up, and please don’t just get angry. Come up with a plan. Share your earnings. As with all change there are the early adopters. That’s where this group is. The only way to bring along the middle is to provide evidence and to keep it in front of the Board with a plan.

Okay, I think the tomato juices are getting in my eyes now. If you got this far without throwing one at me, thanks for listening. If you did throw them I’ll let you know if it helped my complexion or my hairstyle.

Maggie


Jocelyn Devon

in June 15th, 2009 @ 20:58

As an aspiring writer who reads digital as well as print I have shyed away from joining the RWA because of their view on digital publishing. It’s sad that such an organization isn’t willing to take advantage of including digital publishers and its authors into its org.


Ravyn Wilde

in June 15th, 2009 @ 21:52

A standing ovation for you Deidre! I left RWA, my local chapter and an online chapter for just these reasons. The group has blinders on and seems unable to progress with the times. It wonder if they’ve bothered to track the amount of dues they’ve lost as an orgainization due to their stand on this issue?

Thank you for a great article.
Ravyn


KB Alan

in June 15th, 2009 @ 22:57

Thank you for a great post, Deidre. Well said.

I agree with Maggie Jaimeson that the board’s intent is good. There absolutely does need to be a voice of caution and reason so that writers are not making uninformed decisions. However, I cannot make an informed decision if the organization that I am paying to help educate me in this business is too busy pretending that the entire epublishing avenue doesn’t exist. Or that it’s simply too small to matter, or too filled with people out to rip me off.

Whatever their reasoning, it is not helping me. It is not educating me. It is simply making me look elsewhere to find the information I need to make the decisions I need to make. I do not judge the decisions others make as long as they are informed. Ok, well, that’s not true, but I’m small minded that way. I judge them less harshly if they make an informed decision rather than stumble blindly into it, how’s that?

The point is, of course, that I joined RWA because I thought they could help me make those decisions. I stay in RWA because of my local chapter, because of ESPAN, and because I found other (free!) sources. Still, I wish that there was more information available and that the organization I pay provided it to me.


Monique DeVere

in June 16th, 2009 @ 01:48

A very powerful post!

Personally, I find myself looking for ebook versions of paperbacks all the time. I love that I can order a book and have it immediately! Living in the UK, I haven’t got access to a lot of USA published books. Therefore, the opportunity to obtain books without paying high fees for posting thrills me.

We’ve had the Stone Age, the Ice Age, the Dark Age, and I’m sure, some more ages along the way. As the centuries drift by, we move on. It’s clear we’re certainly moving forward into the Digital Age, whether we like it or not.


Brenna Lyons

in June 16th, 2009 @ 02:08

KUDOS! I’ve always loved your straightforward insight. It’s nice to see someone as prominent as you are giving the straight answers. It amazes me how many agents I see who discount e-publishing, even to their blindness of e-publishing in NY. Thank you!

Brenna


Dara Edmondson

in June 16th, 2009 @ 03:29

Thanks you, thank you, thank you for this great post. We can only hope the powers at RWA will sit up and take notice of the logic here.


Monica Burns

in June 16th, 2009 @ 03:47

Deidre, As one of your clients, you told me that if I was earning money as an ePub author then published was published. I am also one of those ePubbed authors you’ve sold to NY (Jan 2010 Berkley release).

I’ve been extremely frustrated with RWA’s head-in-the-sand approach to ePublishing for more than six years. First it was the stigma of ePubbed books being badly written, then they were trash because they were about sex, now it’s because ALL RWA members can’t make enough money off their work in ePubs.

RWA is NOT meeting the needs of ALL its authors. Just recently some PRINT authors have been appalled about piracy of their eBooks released from their traditional publishers. They were shocked. Why? Because RWA only recently started to examine the situation, when ePub authors have been talking about it for years, but RWA didn’t listen. Worse, they didn’t try to EDUCATE the membership.

RWA states they have a vision for the organization when in fact their vision is short-sighted in not looking to a future where digital publishing is a large part of the picture. This attitude does a disservice to ALL its members. Particularly those PRINT authors who are uninformed and misinformed about ePublication. If they had a gun (ePub), they might as well shoot themselves in the foot, at least they’d find themselves quickly educated about gun safety (ePublishing business model).

Most RWA members are unaware that many of us HAVE been been emailing Board members as to the situation. I, and many others, have sent plenty of logical, polite emails to RWA’s Board over the years. In condescending replys, we’ve been told ePublishing doesn’t benefit ALL members. It’s like having J. Bruce Ismay (RWA), telling the crew (ePub) of the Titantic (ALL RWA members) that there aren’t any icebergs ahead. It’s frustrating, because if RWA’s mission is to provide information for it’s members, HOW EXACTLY is RWA doing that?? How can RWA members prepare and educate themselves if their organization doesn’t give them ALL the facts and options available.

There is NO logic in RWA ignoring ePublishing.The industry is changing rapidly (something that RWA eNotes points out REGULARLY), and yet RWA refuses to be proactive about the situation. Even if they don’t believe ePublishing will put a dent in the print world, why would they ignore something that might just benefit ALL their members including traditional published members. It’s illogical, short-sighted and to their detriment as an organization. Particularly when they have the great potential to really strengthen their role as an advocate for authors.

Monica


Monica Burns

in June 16th, 2009 @ 03:49

@ JC Wilder….darling I’m pretty sure I KNOW the woman you mentioned, and she’s a feisty broad who’s got a hell of a lot more vision that most people give her credit for.

Monica


Anne Manning

in June 16th, 2009 @ 04:12

Thank you, Deidre. I was first published by New Concepts back in 1998, when I was still an RWA member. I stayed with the organization for a number of years, trying to change the situation, watching the ever changing “rules” which I could only interpret as an effort to exclude e-pubbed authors. While I’ve never made as much money as RWA thinks I should, I’ve been happy in my niche. I am published. I do hope RWA heeds your wise words and comes with us into the new century. Maybe I’ll reconsider RWA as a place I want to be.
Anne


Marcia James

in June 16th, 2009 @ 04:41

Thank you for such a great and timely post! I, too, was unhappy about the June RWR Letter from the President. Once again, RWA is basing their stand on e-pubs on a single factor — money. If you compare this stand to other professions, it’s easy to see how narrow-minded it is. For example, let’s say I am applying for a corporate job and have several offers to choose from. Should I base my decision solely on which company is offering the most money? Some people would. But I might decide it is worth it to me to take the lesser paying offer because the company offers more vacation time, better health care, daycare for children, an on-site gym, a company car, an IRA, etc. Does that make me less professional or less of a career-minded person because I factor in job elements beyond my base pay?

As many of those commenting here have pointed out, e-publishing offers a number of benefits beyond the money made on each book — including building a readership without the pressure of sell-through, being able to take a home office expense off our taxes, and making money on one’s backlist for years past the time a print backlist would be unavailable. How does it make those of us who choose e-publishing less professional to factor in all the benefits of e-publishing and not just the amount we make in royalties?

The Letter from the President justification that RWA is doing what they’re doing for the good of all members is ridiculous and insulting.
– Marcia James


Dorice Nelson

in June 16th, 2009 @ 04:56

It’s a wonderful thing to see an author/agent take a stand for the supposedly lowly RWA member. I have been with Write Words, Inc. for several years. I have found the publisher to be an honest, hard-working woman, who pays on time and does a fine job on distribution. My books are on a number of sites. Do I need NY? Would I make a significant amount of money there as opposed to where I am? Possibly, but I don’t think I would get the same consideration from the “big” guys that I get from this marvelous publisher.
Thanks for taking a stand. I know it’s not an easy position, just a welcome one,
Dorice Nelson


Caridad Pineiro

in June 16th, 2009 @ 04:57

On the issue of providing “hard numbers” to the RWA Board and the $1000 requirement to enter PAN, why should e-pubs have to provide proof of their sales in order for RWA to acknowledge the legitimacy of e-publishing? Just take a look at how many traditional publishers are now offering e-books if you want to question the legitimacy of this media.

Ms. Pershing stated in her June monthly letter that RWA “must not operate as a social club for hobbyists or fan club. Its purpose will be thoroughly diluted if members are not truly focused on writing romances as a career choice.”

If we really want to make sure this is a career focused organization, why not require PAN members to prove they’ve earned at least $1000 every year or every two years? Is someone who has only published one book in five or ten or twenty years “career-focused”? A hard line some would say, but it’s not any harder than the hurdles that have been put before the e-pubbed members.

I’ve always felt that the term “career-focused” created a slippery slope and the discussion about e-publishing is showing just how slippery it can be.

I think members should be free to determine which is the best career path for themselves. If that path is e-publishing, RWA should find ways to guide members and help them prosper along that path.

Once again, I hope that RWA will reconsider their stance on e-publishing, the PAN requirements and the RITA guidelines.


Penelope Marzec

in June 16th, 2009 @ 05:03

Thanks, Deidre. It’s nice to see so many authors in agreement on this topic :^)

I believe RWA is simply making a desperate attempt to hold on to the old hierarchy before it completely crumbles. Epublishing has succeeded.


Eliza Knight

in June 16th, 2009 @ 05:27

Well said! I agree 100%.

As an e-book author and a member of RWA, I am constantly finding myself disappointed with RWA’s reaction. A fellow author and I also have an extremely popular workshop we teach, and it was turned down for Nationals, because it deals with writing e-book novellas.

You are so right when you say e-books are just another format books can be delivered in. I am also an author that will continue to publish in e-book format after I am published in print. I enjoy writing shorter stories, and I have a nice following.

Thanks for your fabulous words!
Eliza


Viki Lyn

in June 16th, 2009 @ 05:34

Well said!


Margo Hoornstra

in June 16th, 2009 @ 05:51

Well said. As an e-published author, I thank you.


Jannifer Hoffman

in June 16th, 2009 @ 05:58

Good job Deidre. As an E-plubished author with multiple five star reviews i agree fully with every word you said.
Thank you so much for being a comanding voice for authors like myself.


Marcia James

in June 16th, 2009 @ 06:07

Another comment reminded me of a point you rarely hear mentioned as a benefit of e-publishing. You can write 3-4 novellas in the time it would take some people to write 1 single title, and how many NY publishers buy novellas (without invitation)? You can make good money on novellas that are e-pubbed by presses like Samhain and Ellora’s Cave, and they stay “in print” for much longer, making money for the author each time a new reader discovers her work and wants to buy her backlist.
– Marcia James


Linda Rettstatt

in June 16th, 2009 @ 06:09

Thank you for so clearly and eloquently addressing this issue. As an e-published author, I’ve left RWA because I can’t justify paying membership dues to an organization that continues to look at me as being ‘less than’ other members published by larger ‘traditional’ houses. I had stuck with RWA this past year in the hopes that clear heads would prevail. Instead, the chasm has only widened, and I see no interest on the part of RWA in building a bridge.


Anne Hope

in June 16th, 2009 @ 06:12

Very nicely put, Deidre. Thank you for championing e-pubs. Sometimes, it’s really hard for people to think outside the box. Your article is a real eye-opener, and I hope RWA finally takes notice. I agree. All organizations must evolve to survive. E-publishing is here to stay. The sooner RWA accepts that, the happier a growing number of its membership will be.


Tanya Neal

in June 16th, 2009 @ 06:16

Excellent blog! I hope RWA understands that change is constant, elsewise it’ll go under.


Jory Strong

in June 16th, 2009 @ 06:37

Great post. Well said. Now if only RWA’s leadership will start listening and stop alienating.


Annmarie McKenna

in June 16th, 2009 @ 07:27

Thank you, thank you, thank you.


Angie

in June 16th, 2009 @ 07:29

Thank you for this very enlightening article. I had been wondering about ebooks and this helps me understand so much more.

~Angie


Koko Brown

in June 16th, 2009 @ 07:40

Great article, but I’m so jaded by RWA’s prejudicial treatment fueled by an antiquated ideology, that I feel this is like preaching to a choir that disbanded in 1980.

If it weren’t for my local chapter and my desire to make difference through a deciding vote, my dues would essentially be a waste of my hard earned ebook residual income.

RWA claims to protect their memberships’ careers, but I don’t see it. All they seem to do is provide us with lists where we have to do all the footwork.

Case in point, their recent stance on internet piracy. Sure, they verbally support authors in this flagrant infringement of one’s copyright, but their only proactive stance is a freaking press release and a list that encourages people to individually contact each and every site. Haven’t they ever heard of the phrase “strength in numbers”.

Why not act like an organization which represents professionals and hire a lawyer to throw the weight of 10,000 members behind the situation? Or better yet send a lobbyist to battle copyright infringement on Capitol hill?

Of course many dissentors might say our membership isn’t large enough for us to make a difference. Or we don’t have the capital.

B.S.

The NAACP had little over half the membership of RWA and they were able to push the U.S. government into allowing colored soldiers to serve as officers for the first time in World War I. And RWA just built new administrative offices without the use of a loan.

In my opinion, if RWA continues down this road of sticking their head in the sand and perpetuating a mindset that not all of its members are of equal footing then they are doomed to become nothing but a a club that doesn’t hold any weight.


Christie Walker

in June 16th, 2009 @ 08:06

Great Job, Deidre. As a member of RWA and the author of three novels for Cerridwen Press, an imprint of Ellora’s Cave, I, too, am frustrated by RWA’s take on what it means to be a published author. I wonder what my readers and fans would think about all this. To them, a book is a book, no matter how they read it. Thanks for sticking up for all of us authors of e-books. Christie


Saskia Walker

in June 16th, 2009 @ 08:21

Well said! Thank you, Deidre.


Nina Pierce

in June 16th, 2009 @ 08:22

Thank you Ms. Knight for putting it so eloquently. I am very frustrated but RWA’s stand on electronic publishing. I now have 7 books out … all of them with electronic publishers. I have learned so much about the publishing industry in the past year. Like many authors I am looking to build my reader base and I am very pleased that my books are out there receiving reviews and garnering followers. I have every intention of making writing a viable career that helps support me and my family. I only hope RWA will come to understand how valuable the ebook industry is to the romance genre.


Lesli Muir Lytle

in June 16th, 2009 @ 08:24

Perhaps it is time for an ambitious group to create a digital writer’s organization…or an all-encompassing organizationl.

As a business, the “managers” of RWA should be free to offer only the products they feel represent their “brand”…but when the new store opens across the street, what interesting things might happen!

Speaking only for myself, how could I possibly resist maintaining a membership in both?


Brenna Lyons

in June 16th, 2009 @ 08:31

Lesli,

Depending on what you want, there are other organizations. The only problem is that they are not as old as or established as RWA is…as any of the WAs are (MWA, SFWA, etc.).

EPIC is specifically for e-published and indie published. Only industry members and published authors can join, but we do run a workshop group open to non-members and unpublished.

RWU is all inclusive.

If you’re in the spec fic subgenres (horror, science fiction, fantasy, paranormal), you can join BroadUniverse and IWOFA (Infinite Worlds of Fantasy Authors).

Name it. Someone out there is doing it.

Are they as established? I already admitted they are not, but they are useful and a great place to network, ask questions, get support, etc. And, bar none, their yearly dues (if they even charge yearly dues…not all of them do) and contest fees are much more reasonable, so you could try out a bunch for size and decide what fits.

Brenna


Ann Cory

in June 16th, 2009 @ 08:43

Very well said, and very much appreciated.


Elle Amery

in June 16th, 2009 @ 08:54

Thank you, Ms. Knight, for sharing your thoughts on what has become such a pervasive issue within RWA. Because you are so well known and respected in the publishing industry, I believe your voice will carry far. I appreciate your stated opinion and applaud your efforts. Thank you again.


Vijaya Schartz

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:11

Thank you, Dierdre, for a much needed voice on the side of ePublishing. How long will RWA keep ignoring the obvious? Holding on to obsolete standards never made a business or an organization flourish. I’m glad eBooks are here to stay, and I hope RWA shapes up soon, if they want to keep representing the voice of romance. Right now, so many e-authors are frustrated by their attitude, that those who haven’t left yet are seriously considering it.


Linda Mooney

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:28

Thank you, Deidre, for your stance in defense of all epublishers. I have not renewed my RWA membership.


Tracy Cooper-Posey

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:28

I was asked to leave a comment, and I will, but I honestly feel that RWA and its business has so little relationship with my corner of the romance industry that there is no point in trying to discuss it.

I was the inaugral winner of Australia’s version of RWA’s RITA, but after moving to Canada and publishing electronically, I discovered I’d contracted the equivalent of the Bubonic plague.

The yawning chasm can’t be crossed. I’ve given up trying. You can only hit your head against a wall so many times before the pain registers and you have to stop.

Yes, it’s true, I live above the 48th parallel, write erotic romance, publish electronically, am Australian, don’t have a New York contract, don’t generally get advances, and use salty language in my novels (don’t show your mothers).

What’s also true is that I write romances. I write full time, I get royalty cheques every month, I have an agent, a website, a blog, and rabidly loyal readers around the world. I have been published in German, Russian, Chinese, Portuguese, Japanese, and Spanish. I am a national award winning author. Why am I not considered legitimate in the eyes of RWA?

Tracy Cooper-Posey.


WendyK

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:35

wow what a great blog post!!!! Thank you so much for doing it.
hugs,
WendyK
http://www.mybookaddictionandmore.wordpress.com


Leigh Court

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:36

Wow. Rarely have I read such a powerful argument in defense of e-publishing. Well done, Deidre!

Leigh


Silver James

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:45

Deidre, thank you for your well-reasoned and even-handed response to this conundrum. Like so many have already stated, the only reason I stay with RWA is for my local chapter, and now ESPAN. I didn’t even know this group existed. I do now and will be joining as soon as I get the address to mail in my application and dues.

My book will be released by The Wild Rose Press next year. There are bookstores who will stock the print copies on the shelves. It will be listed with on-line sellers, and the ebook format on the publisher’s site. How does this not make me a “real” author?

I stay with the organization in hopes of seeing the attitudes and policies change. If they don’t? I’ll have to think long and hard about continuing to support them with my hard-earned royalties.

I look forward to hearing what Ms. Pershing has to say in response.


Emily

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:51

Hi! I am just an avid reader. (No desire to EVER write) Most of the books I have read this past year have been e-books. I live in a rural area and the closest town has 1 major bookstore chain and 2 small independant bookstores, AND they don’t and won’t carry a few of my favorite authors. The on-line option is sometimes my ONLY option. In addition, my book budget dollars (and bookshelf space) go further on-line. RWA needs to keep pace with not only the current market, but also the few of us still living in very rural areas.
Just adding my 2 cents! :)


Crystal Jordan

in June 16th, 2009 @ 09:55

I’ve never been prouder to be a Knight Agency client. Well said, Deidre!


The Galaxy Express>>Deidre Knight Strikes Back: RWA & Digital Publishing

in June 16th, 2009 @ 10:01

[...]Many people, including me, have noted the irony of the RWA president, Diana Pershing, implying in the June RWR missive that RWA knows better when it comes to digital publishing than an experienced, successful literary agent such as Deidre Knight—who is also an epublished author.[...]


Cat Grant

in June 16th, 2009 @ 10:13

I stopped reading the RWR months ago. Every time I picked it up and saw all the disparaging comments about e-publishing, it sent my blood pressure through the roof.

I pretty much ignore everything about RWA these days. If it weren’t for the wonderful, supportive people at my local chapter and the two online chapters I belong to, I would’ve let my membership lapse this year. I really resented writing that $85 check in March. It felt like I was paying to be denigrated and insulted.


Stephanie Julian

in June 16th, 2009 @ 10:19

Thank you Deidre for putting into words the frustration felt by many of us who are epublished.

Ms. Pershing refers to “career-minded” writers in her RWR letter. According to her, I did not made an informed decision to sign with Ellora’s Cave because RWA did not provide me with the proper “education.” She implies that had RWA properly educated me, I would not have signed that first contract.

My seventh EC story since March 08 will be released June 26. My numbers are consistenly growing. I signed with a well-known agent last year and she has submitted three books to NY publishers. I work at my craft every day as well as blog, Tweet, Facebook, give workshops and plan promotion. I have been a member of my local chapter for almost 12 years.

I do consider that a career.

RWA as an organization will never be all things to all members. That means they need to work harder to make sure its members have access to as much information as they can get their hands on. Not just the information a few members can benefit from.

As an epubbed author, I need RWA to step up and provide information vital to my career as an epubbed romance author who is working toward publishing in print and digital markets. I need RWA to be proactive instead of reactive and take the time to study the digital market and the future of publishing rather than focus solely on monetary issues.

I absolutely want to make a living wage writing. But I know for a fact that I’ve already made more money with EC than some authors with NY houses. And yes, I feel good about that.


Amie Stuart

in June 16th, 2009 @ 10:25

Jory…..here’s the thing. And I have to go back to what JC said….it’s been 10 years and RWA HAS NOT CHANGED!!! (other than yes, okay the GLBT Chapter for which I applaud them but…). To sit around (and you’re not the only one I’ve heard say this so it’s not just me yelling at you and it’s not personal… :D ) saying, “I hope this makes RWA change,” –hell I could probably convince my kids cleaning is fun faster than RWA will ever actually make any worthwhile changes.


Debbie Mumford

in June 16th, 2009 @ 11:03

Thank you for an excellent post.

If I thought RWA was interested in the needs of ALL of its members, I’d rejoin. I hope someone in the organization takes note of your well reasoned comments.


Debra Glass

in June 16th, 2009 @ 11:07

Thanks for a well written post, Deidre. I have been a member of RWA since 1995, and I write for Ellora’s Cave. I know several authors who write for NY houses who have not earned out their piddling advances and whose sales have not touched royalties I’ve earned on e books. I hate that RWA is refusing to join the 21st century.

Change, however, comes from within. We e pubbed authors need to let our voice be heard.


annie nicholas

in June 16th, 2009 @ 11:09

As a new member of RWA I feel very disenchanted by their lack of support. I’ve caught myself asking, “What did I recieve for my fee?”


Phoebe Matthews

in June 16th, 2009 @ 11:22

Everybody here has it right. The ONLY reason to remain in RWA is to attend local meetings. As many of those are held in public libraries or buidings that do not allow exclusion, that reason may be fading.

So let me bring up one other point. In limiting the RITA, is there a hint here that the RWA leaders see epub as a threat? Are their old favorites losing sales? B&N bought Fictionwise so that it could add eBooks to their falling print sales. Is RWA running scared?


Judi Phillips

in June 16th, 2009 @ 11:46

Thanks for this post. It has long needed to be said. I was e-published back in the days when, yes you’re a member of PAN when you sold your book no matter what — ooops! no you’re not because you’re e-pubbed. A friend of mine actually had her PAN membership revoked. So, I don’t believe the disenfranchisement of e-pubs has anything to do with erotica. It has to do with just plain snobishness. Obviously, e-publishers will publish anything (so, how come I have a bunch of rejections from them?); the quality of books doesn’t compare with print books (so how come there are more print books I’ve hurled against the wall than e-books I’ve poofed into digital trash?). This is all about elitism and nothing about what’s good for RWA members. That’s the way it’s always been and looks like it’s going to continue that way. So what am I getting for my dues? The pleasure of reading a slap in the face from the president of RWA. Thanks but no thanks.


Shayla Kersten

in June 16th, 2009 @ 11:54

I’m primarily published in electronic form. Most of my books have easily exceeded RWA’s PAN benchmark in the first month’s sales. My only NY book is a novella in an anthology. From offer to print, the book took 3 years. In the meantime, I contracted 14 times with epublishers–and almost all made more money than my NY pubbed advance. Only one, a short story of 6k words, made less. And most of my epubbed are approxiamately the same length as the NY novella.

My day job ended in October. I write full time now with a parttime accounting job. My royalties have kept me going in rough times. My epubbed royalties. I haven’t seen a royalty statement from my NY pubbed book since it was just released in Jan 2009. The advance I received two years ago is long gone. And I won’t see a royalty statement until Nov 2009. My monthly paid eppubbed royalities allow me to pay bills.

Evidently someone–until Ms. Pershing’s RWR letter–forgot to tell me I wasn’t a career oriented writer because I was epubbed.

RWA has much to offer their members but they can’t keep turning a blind eye to the future. They seriously need to get with the program. The only reason I’m still a member is my local chapter. I helped found Diamond State Romance Authors since Arkansas didn’t have a chapter. I adore my chaptermates and nothing rejuvenates my muse like getting together with other writers. At some point, RWA’s cost will exceed the benefit and chapter members will seek, or create, other groups to fulfill their needs.

Thank you, Deidre, for your eloquent post and Espan for furthering the cause!

Shayla Kersten


Nita Wick

in June 16th, 2009 @ 12:18

Excellent post, Ms. Knight. I only wish I believed it would make a difference, but Ms. Pershing and the board have made it painfully clear that they won’t listen.

I chose to epublish. Why? Because I view it as a stepping stone, another rung on the ladder. I’ve learned so much about my craft working with experienced editors. I’m building a following and name recognition. And I’m collecting dozens of rave reviews. Hopefully, with this solid foundation, one day a NY pub will be willing to take a change on me because I won’t be a completely “new” author.

I don’t give a fig whether RWA recognizes me as a published. I couldn’t care less.

What ticks me off is that RWA excludes me and so many like me. They assume that we are not career-minded. They exclude us from the national contests that could help us get that coveted NY contract. I regularly feel insulted by the president’s letters.

What do I want from RWA? I want the same thing I wanted when I joined, BEFORE I chose to epublish. For my exorbitant membership fees, I want information on how to further my career. I believe that should INCLUDE opportunities to be found in epublishing and print on demand.

I just received my RWA renewal notice. I have two options- 1. Leave RWA, give up my local/online chapters, and let the organization die due to it’s inability to change with the times. Or 2. Renew my membership and help vote the narrow-minded, short-sighted, elitist board out of office.


Kristen Painter

in June 16th, 2009 @ 12:20

Thank you to everyone who’s stopped by to comment or has helped spread the word about this post. We at ESPAN greatly appreciate all the support.


Bethany Cagle

in June 16th, 2009 @ 12:46

As a soon to be e-published author and book reviewer, I agree completely. I’ve had the pleasure of reviewing several e-books that actually made me stop and think. “This is extraordinary. Why am I not reading this as a Harlequin or Penguin’s print books.” Could it be the author didn’t feel worthy of sending to NY and found it better for her to sumbit to a small press? How many other authors out there deserve the recognition of print authors? Quality goes both ways. I’ve read bestselling authors whose books I just could not finish. Even though I was a loyal fan, all the head-hopping, inconsistencies and plot holes made me feel like I was reading a first draft. Why? Serious reevaluation is needed. We are moving toward a digital age, no surprise. What will the publishing industry be like in sixty years?


Eliza March

in June 16th, 2009 @ 12:48

I encourage those of us epublished authors to stay and make changes from within the RWA organization. Those of us who epublish and traditionally publish don’t want to seek membership in two or more organizations. We’re increasing in numbers everyday and have a right to be members, a right to enter our contests and a right to be recognized for our accomplishments. Having said that, I also believe we have the support of a number of traditionally published authors and members of RWA, who do not share the same opinions as Diane Pershing’s board. These posts are a perfect example of my point.


Fiona Vance

in June 16th, 2009 @ 12:53

Thank you Diedre! I’ve been waiting for someone with some “clout” (i.e. involved in “real” publishing, unlike us e-pubbed “non-career-oriented” “pretend” authors) to step up and speak out. Thank you so much. I have my renewal for RWA national on my desk, and I was seriously considering not sending it in after that recent RWR travesty from Diane Pershing. Her articles have become more and more offensive to us in e-publishing over the last several months, beginning with the ridiculous requirements for RITA eligibility being determined by print run size, and ending with her recent article that shows just how oblivious she is to the direction publishing is taking and to the needs of romance authors looking to write “for a living.” I’m e-pubbed and proud of it. I’m getting paid. That’s not career-oriented how? Thanks for the support.


Denise A. Agnew

in June 16th, 2009 @ 12:55

Excellent article Deidre. :)

Denise A.. Agnew


Chris Redding

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:01

I can only add. You go girl.!


Kassia Krozser

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:01

I come at this issue from various perspectives (and my own agenda) and, like others, a veteran of over a decade of debates on this topic by members of the Romance Writers of America. Let me start by saying that I am *appalled* that there is not a single workshop at the 2009 Annual Conference dealing with the issues of digital publishing. The shift to digital — the implications, the possibilities, the drawbacks, the impact it has on business — is an all-consuming issue at industry conferences. At this years BEA, if it wasn’t a discussion about social media, it was a discussion about digital.

If authors are not wholly informed about the impact the shift to this market has on their careers, authors will not make good decisions. It’s as simple as that. Diane Pershing, in her letter, noted that the RWA’s focus needs to be on what is good for the general RWA membership. Neglecting to focus on this critical change in the publishing industry boggles my mind.

It also boggles my mind that the organization is incapable of looking beyond internal prejudices to call upon leaders in digital publishing to help walk members through these issues. Romance is incredibly lucky because, unlike so many other genres (including literary), it has leaders who are respected by organizations like the IDPF. That the organization refuses to leverage this expertise is a disservice to the membership as a whole.

Secondly, I remain puzzled by the RWA’s insistence upon using advances as a defining factor in decision-making. Pershing suggests that advance-paying publishers lead to authors making “decent money”, when, if you’ve been in the publishing business for any length of time, you know that very few authors earn a living wage from their writing. Those that do should be applauded, but they are the exception (and I am speaking of all types of books, not just romance). If you’re paying attention to publishing news, you know that many big New York houses are under duress due, in part, to economic factors outside their control. Who suffers? Authors — as advances, marketing budgets, and even editorial staff are cut.

The RWA does not have to embrace every new digital publisher without setting certain standards, but given that this debate has raged for so long without resolution, isn’t it time various parties sat down at the table and seriously discussed how to truly make the organization work for *all* members?


Eva

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:05

I think when we as epubbed authors speak of e-publishing as a ’stepping stone’ we are setting the wrong precedent.

As e-authors we need to make it known that submisson to an e-house is just as likely to recieve a rejection as a traditional pub. When we, as authors, allow the perception that e-publishing is ‘easier to get published in’ or a ’stepping stone’ we weaken the understanding that e-publishing and traditonal publishing are two different avenues to sell content, one not being easier and or better than the other. I work just as hard on the stories I plan on submittion to e-houses as I do the ones I submit to NY houses. The difference-to me- is an artistic one. I can try selling my more genre bending/different stories to e-pubs whereas NY gets my safer stories. This is not an argument for either or/ it’s both/and.


Sela Carsen

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:30

Not to derail the commenting, but I agree with Eva. I didn’t submit to an e-publisher as a stepping stone. I submitted because it is THE perfect market for the novellas that I write. This is what I do, despite what Ms Pershing envisions as a career, and I’m the one who makes the decisions. That RWA believes I’ve been duped only goes to show that they haven’t studied the market trends regarding short fiction.

When I talk about e-publishing, I see it as a goal in and of itself, rather than a rung on the ladder to something greater. For a novella/short story writer, NY couldn’t do much more for me than my e-publisher does.


Lisa Kessler

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:32

Very well said. I hope that RWA will read it and do some thinking…


Hannah Howell

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:38

Great article and I believe the word ‘elitist’ suits perfectly. When they first started coming up with new rules for PAN it was obvious they were after cutting out the e-book people. I wrote my first letter to RWA about. My opinion is – if you have written a book and a publisher has bought, how your money comes to you is your business and makes no difference in your status as a published writer. They should be trying to be inclusive. As for not renewing one’s membership – I can understand that, as their attitude is a slap in the face – but it’s rather hard to change attitudes from the outside. Hannah


Linda McLaughlin

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:39

Great post, Deidre. I agree with everything you said except “the emerging culture of elitism” in RWA. Unfortunately, there’s nothing new about that; it has been going on for nearly ten years.


Judy Baker

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:41

Thank you, Deidre. You’ve put in writing what so many of us are thinking.


Misty Evans

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:46

Thank you, Kristen and Deidre, for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with the world on the epub debate constantly raging within and without RWA. As both an RWA member and a Samhain author, I find it difficult at times to figure out what RWA is doing for me, other than taking my dues. There are many great reasons to be part of such a large organization, but more and more, I find my wings are clipped with them instead of free to spread.

I’m sharing this article with one and all!
Misty Evans


Kim Winklhofer

in June 16th, 2009 @ 13:48

Get yourself a drink and put your feet up. This is a long post.

Ms. Pershing’s letter rubbed me the wrong way when I first read it–so much so that many days later I couldn’t ignore the feelings it stirred up: sadness (I’ve learned so much from RWA and made so many good good friends through it), anger, confusion, frustration. I posted about it on Romance Divas. Namely, I wondered how a 37.5% royalty rate could be deemed “inconsequential.” It’s not inconsequential to my family budget, I can tell you.

I also objected to her implication that *all* authors signed with traditional publishers make “decent money.” I beg to differ. (See Kassia’s post.) Publishing with a traditional publisher does not get you an address on Easy Street. Nor does it, in my opinion, automatically make you a career-focused writer, as Caridad pointed out. And what the heck IS decent money? Like someone else said, money is only one determining factor when deciding where to submit and which contracts to sign.

Anyway, to my utter surprise when I returned home from work that day, there were 170+ replies from writers similarly upset. I honestly thought I was probably reading too much into the letter and at the very least would feel better by virtue of getting it off my chest. So, I’m incredibly grateful to Deidre, a person of consequence in the business, for much more coherently expressing so much of what I felt and believe and bring this important subject into the spotlight. I’m also grateful for all the other replies on this thread. It’s so wonderful to know I’m not alone.

But now I’m even more upset. I can’t go to DC this year, so I didn’t pay much attention to what workshops were on the schedule. I’m appalled that there are none that address the subject of e-publishing. Was this a monumental oversight? I saw that at least one workshop on epubbed novellas was rejected. Were there more? Here’s a breakdown of subjects that have multiple workshops devoted to them: Inspirational (2), Paranormal/Fantasy (3), Suspense (4), Historical (4), Gender differences (2 maybe 3, I couldn’t tell if Kantra’s was about differences), Pitching (2), Promotions (a whopping 7).

While I have doubts about how much self-promotion really affects sales, do we really need *seven* workshops on the subject? Especially considering that these are *not* the PAN workshops. What good does promotion do if you have nothing but WIPs to promote? Surely one of those time slots could have been about e-publishing.

Kassia reported about the preponderance of digital media discussions at BEA. How embarrassing that RWA is so far on the other end of the awareness spectrum. Seems like if they received only one workshop proposal on the topic of digital publishing, they should have reached out to people like Deidre, Angela James (Samhain), Tina Burns (Liquid Silver Books), Raelene Gorlinsky (Ellora’s Cave), etc. Oh, but those publishing companies don’t offer advances. It would have been gauche to ask them to do a workshop at a conference at which they’re not welcome without a fee. Catch 22.

Another post talked about how the Board needs information to become better informed. Here are some ideas. Put a post on Chaplink and ask the presidents to ask their e-pubbed members for hard numbers or facts. Even better, there are many very well known online venues where they could ask for info, many of them mentioned on in comments above. Post questions there. I didn’t even know ESPAN existed until yesterday, but surely the Board is aware of it. There’s an entire chapter of well-informed members! Board members could ask their writing buddies who are epubbed, what’s the deal, my friend? Post a request for info in eNotes. Publish one in the RWR.

(Deep breath) Well, I’ve rambled on long enough. I want to close by stating again that I wouldn’t trade my eight years in RWA for anything. I truly believe the Board has our best interests at heart, but their method and attitude appear biased, non-inclusive, antiquated, and frighteningly uninformed. My membership is up for renewal and for the first time since 1999, I’m considering not sending in my check. Ms. Pershing’s rebuttal on Friday may prove to be pivotal in my decision.

Kim Winklhofer (writing–and published–as Kate Willoughby)


Carol Stacy

in June 16th, 2009 @ 14:00

Great post Deidre!

At RT we have been supporting e-books, authors and publishers for more than 10 years!!! Since RT represents the reader our position is that a good book is a good book no matter how many copies are distributed, no matter what format it is written in and no matter how much money an author makes from the sale.

We have included an E-Book program at our annual convention for several years now and this year we will have our third annual E-Book, Small Press and Multimedia Expo where we welcome e-book publishers and authors and give them the spotlight. This year it will be bigger and better!!

We are currently putting together the E-Book Program for our upcoming convention in Columbus next Spring. If anyone has workshop proposals for e-publishing/e-marketing I would love to see them. You can email me at cstacy@rtbookreviews.com.

RT Book Reviews readers have found many new favorite authors in our magazine who are E/Small Press published and we will continue to support the industry that is the future of publishing.

—Carol Stacy
Publisher of RT Book Reviews


Cher Gorman

in June 16th, 2009 @ 14:38

Thank you very much, Ms. Knight for your insightful and articulate article. I agree with you 100%. There are people who don’t think that e-publishing is legitimate. I had 5 e-books published, my first was an Eppie finalist. It would have been nice to enter some of my books in the Rita but alas that was not to be.

I appreciate you taking the time to blog about this. I have been a member of RWA since 1995. Each year they ask the same question, “How can we benefit all of our members?” Recognizing the validity of e-published authors would be a start.

Take care,

Cher


Mia Romano

in June 16th, 2009 @ 14:38

Thank you for the wonderful post. I too hope it brings a resolution.


Nita Wick

in June 16th, 2009 @ 14:49

Eva & Sela – I apologize if I implied that epublishing cannot be a destination and career worthy of respect. It’s just the my goal was and still is, the NY Times bestseller list. LOL

However, once I entered the world of epublishing, I learned it is far more than just another rung on my ladder. Short stories that NY currently has little interest in can be published there. Genre blends that aren’t recognized as hot market trends are welcomed as well. There are far more opportunities, and quite frankly, a much more varied, open market.

And if RWA didn’t have a policy of regarding the epublishing industry as inferior, I might have learned all that sooner! I might have attended a workshop to learn about those opportunities. I might have read about this thriving market in the RWR.

I might have learned that you get just as many rejections in epublishing as you do from NY. Due to RWA’s policies, I (like so many others) believed that if I hadn’t yet learned to write with enough polish for NY, if my books weren’t good enough for NY, I could always get my stuff published with epubs.

I was wrong. Reputable epublishers don’t publish inferior work any more than NY does. My work was accepted for publication because it is good. It’s good enough to be published. Period. There is no such thing as “Good enough for NY” as I once believed. It’s simply a matter of finding the right market for your work.

Although I still see epublishing as a stepping stone to my ultimate goal, I now know it will always be an important segment of my career. I will not leave it behind as I originally expected. I’d be a fool to do so.

My complaint is that I might have learned all this much sooner and with fewer mistakes if RWA (the organization I joined in order to attain this knowledge) had lived up to its promise of education. It didn’t. It still doesn’t. And with Ms. Pershing and the board unwilling to accept the epublishing market, many members may never learn of the opportunities and pitfalls of this massive market.


Kristie Leigh Maguire

in June 16th, 2009 @ 15:00

This article is right on! It is time that RWA took their collective heads out of the sand and move into today’s digital world!


Rebecca J Clark

in June 16th, 2009 @ 15:08

Great post! I hope RWA sees this and takes action. Soon.


Serena Shay

in June 16th, 2009 @ 15:13

Beautifully put, Ms. Knight! Thank you!


Patty S.

in June 16th, 2009 @ 15:18

In addition to those authors Deidre mentioned, you can also include Lora Leigh, Shiloh Walker, Maya Banks, and Jaci Burton as just a few others who started with e-publishing and are now doing very well with large print publishers. Deidre’s right, the industry has changed and RWA needs to keep up!


Eva

in June 16th, 2009 @ 15:30

No offense taken, Nita.

“It’s just the my goal was and still is, the NY Times bestseller list. LOL”

The line forms to the left. *g*

(I think it’s the experience with an editor that gives us that ’stepping stone’ feeling. We get our work picked apart and made ready for public and we learn something each time. But I think if we had chosen NY pub we would have the same experience.)


K. Kaefer

in June 16th, 2009 @ 15:43

Good Post!!!


Frances Pauli

in June 16th, 2009 @ 16:14

It’s about time somebody said this, and it makes my heart glad to know that at least one agent out there feels this way. I have met with anything from general disdain to outright hostility and disparagement of the entire “e-publishing thing” from agents and professionals in the print industry.
From my perspective, the savy author today would be wise to keep some form of electronic presence, and yes, even after they’ve wandered over into print.
Brilliantly put.
Frances Pauli


Deborah J Panger

in June 16th, 2009 @ 16:26

Thanks for your awesome post. I am an e-pub author and proud of it. I love FF&P chapter and wouldn’t be published without their critique group, therefore, I do renew my yearly RWA fee so that I can keep up my membership with FF&P. But I am dissapointed about RWA’s policies on e-publishing. They need to roll with the changes.
Deb
published with The Wild Rose Press-Wilder Roses Catalog.


Cai

in June 16th, 2009 @ 16:48

Thank you for such an informative and enlightening (to some) post. Like many who have already responded, I am e-published yet not “recognized” as published with RWA. With the increase in my dues this year, I seriously considered not renewing my membership in an organization that does not support me or my publisher. Again, like many who have responded here, the ONLY reason I forked over the RWA dues was because of a chapter I belong to – and it’s not even really a “local” chapter – it’s an online one – FTHRW, to be exact.

The challenges that e-pubbed authors face in receiving recognition from RWA is very similar to the challenges that online chapters have with chapter-specific issues. There are just some things online chapters face that “local” chapters never will. But I digress…

Again, THANK YOU Deidre for your concise, eloquent post.


Anne Kane

in June 16th, 2009 @ 17:25

Great post! I love e-books , both as a reader and an author. I hope the RWA exec reads it as well. They might learn something!


Melisse Aires

in June 16th, 2009 @ 18:30

Every year I consider joining RWA and every year I decide to spend all that money elsewhere. As a short story and novella epublished romance writer I haven’t been able to justify the expense. I need value for my money, and I definitely don’t need to raise my blood pressure.

I’ll be watching RWA’s response to this blog with interest.


Teresa D'Amario

in June 16th, 2009 @ 19:24

Thanks so much for the perfect way to describe the issue. I’ve got my own thoughts, but you’ve laid most of them out right here.


Amberly Smith

in June 16th, 2009 @ 19:43

I feel that both Deidre and Diane are concerned about writers of romance. And I have real mixed feelings about epublishing. I read almost exclusively from epubs and I write targeted to epubs. But what I know about epubs (the different ones and the industry) is self taught. A lot of work and potential heart ache that my membership to RWA is supposed to help me with but doesn’t.

It feels a bit like listening to someone defending romance and how wonderful/feminist/powerful it is. But too bad about those catagory/erotic/inspirational that tarnish the image. It shouldn’t be us versus them.


Joelle

in June 16th, 2009 @ 20:24

I agree that RWA is not approaching the issue of e-press with an eye on their mission statement. Education for RWA members on the publishing industry was my main reason for joining.

The bi-laws state that RWA mission is: “To advance the professional interests of career-focused romance writers through networking and advocacy: means for such advancement include, but are not limited to, professional education, publications, contests and awards, and an annual conference”

Professional education should not be limited to the information on the NY print publishing industry when there other publishing options available to authors. How can a member decide whether they should publish via e-press if they have not heard the pros and cons from their peers? Yes, there are on-line and local chapters the provide support, but I know many RWA members that would appreciate the ability to attend a workshop on e-presses at Nationals. The choice to e-publish and the information necessary to make that choice should not be in essence banned from the RWA National membership out of some lack of forethought to the future of the industry.

I write mysteries with romantic elements, so I already live on the fringes of RWA’s blessings. Because of this, I am not as concerned with the ever changing and baffling rules of the national contests. However, I am appalled at the lack of RWA National’s ability to follow the tenants set forth in the very first bi-law. E-press is a viable contract option for authors. Not providing the membership with education to successfully navigate this option is irresponsible and unprofessional.


G.H. Worth

in June 16th, 2009 @ 20:30

Thanks Diedre for the concise and articulate manner in which you’ve handled this problem. The board members of RWA are attempting to hide their out-of-touch opinions behind ‘doing what’s best’ for their members. I don’t know who they think their members are, or what century they beleive they are living in, because it don’t appear to be the same one I live in. If they don’t want to start loosing their members, they need to eliminate the bigorty and dicrimination from their so-called rules and need to move into the reality of today, aiding all of their members…not just an elite few. I pay dues and I deserve to be treated fairly and equally!!


Jeanne Barrack

in June 16th, 2009 @ 20:35

Marvelous post, Deidre and judging by the many and varied well-thought out comments, e-pubbed authors know exactly what they want and have expressed this many times over.
Maybe one day the RWA will actually listen


Arwen Lynch

in June 16th, 2009 @ 20:55

I chose not to attend RWA this year. Instead my money went to Orlando for the Romantic Times Convention. Why?

Simple. RT supports me as an e-pubbed author.

My own organization does not.

This will be the first RWA I have missed since 2000 when I first joined RWA. To say I’ve been disillusioned since then is an understatement.

And my first RWA was Denver host to the infamous Sunshine committee and the 4 or was it 6 hour long General Meeting.

I am currently seriously evaluating RWA’s role in my career. I will be very interested to see Diane Pershing’s promised response.


EG4eBooks

in June 16th, 2009 @ 21:33

Dear Deidre,

I firmly agree with most of these posts that’s its about time something was said about the growing division between, paper and e-press authors and associations. As a debut e-press author this year, there is enough self-doubt and stress associated with just producing the work (just like any other author) without then suffering a type of stigma attached to publishing through an e press.
Personally I am proud to be with an e-publisher, because i believe they taken me seriously and given me the same due consideration as traditional press. They have a business to run and wouldn’t simply take on an author for the sake of having something to sell.
I know this same negative attitude has meant many of my writing associates have backed away from approaching agents because it is continually drummed into them that they should have something ‘real’ first.
Again, thankyou.


Storm Grant

in June 17th, 2009 @ 01:54

I’m an member of both the Toronto chapter and the new Rainbow chapter. At least half of the published authors in the Toronto chapter are achieving success with e-publishers. How can the RWA ignore us, while saying they’re looking out for the interests of all members?

Thank you for speaking out.
~ Storm Grant
Fictions that’s pretty, witty, gritty and gay.


Zetta Brown

in June 17th, 2009 @ 02:29

Hi,

I’m not an RWA member, but I have several friends who are and many of them have talked (for ages) about how out of step RWA is at the national level. In fact, it’s been claimed that many of the people calling the shots are frustrated unpublished authors. These so-called guidelines may have been useful 5, 10, 15 years ago, but right now they’re nothing but piffle.

I’m e-published and proud. My husband and I run a small press that produce ebooks and print books. We have good relationships with our authors and pay royalties. We wouldn’t be considered “legitimate” by RWA standards, but frankly, we’ve been doing fine without RWA blessing.

If RWA members are so frustrated, what’s stopping you all from forming a group that’s more inclusive and with the times? You’d probably give the existing RWA a run for its money.


Debora Dennis

in June 17th, 2009 @ 04:01

Thanks Deidre, words well written that needed to be said! I am among the e-pubbed authors that seriously question my ties to the national organization routinely.

This year when my renewal came up I really took a hard look at why I was sending my money yet again to an organization that looks down on my novellas as hardly even a publishing credit. Because they are novellas, I am still only considered a PRO member, which stings.

With two other chaptermates this past January, I was in the midst of founding a new local chapter in our area. Talk about being torn. In the end, we wrote our local bylaws to be completely inclusive of ALL publishing avenues and we celebrate each and every contract our members sign. So, while at the national level I may feel disenfranchised, my local group and here at ESPAN is where I fit and feel like the author I know in my heart I am.

The national organization is certainly not all bad. While in the planning stages of our new local group – we serioiusly considered the ups and downs of being affiliated with RWA. We decided the organization is well-recognized and with this issue of continuously treating epubs as second rate citizens aside, tries to be an advocate for all romance writers. Most writing organizations don’t even allow unpublished members to join – RWA not only does, but strives to educate them to make good choices and hone their craft. RWA just needs to be educated themselves that E-publishing is also not only a viable choice for many, but a GOOD (and profitable) choice!

But they are certainly not perfect, can’t be everything to everyone and most certainly, MUST move with the times! I hope that Ms. Pershing can sit back and take a real look at the epub model and put some of her prejudices aside. It’s time. But until then, I will continue to make my local chapter a place everyone is proud to belong.

We live in a digital age, one of instant gratification and handheld devices, I think it’s great that books can be downloaded and read anywhere, anytime. I remain perplexed that RWA doesn’t see the light on this and can’t embrace the potential. Would I love to have a NY print deal? Sure! But there is no reason we can’t have both! And if that makes me “uneducated” and a “hobby writer” in the eyes of the RWA, then so be it.

I’m proud of what I write and the medium I choose to publish it in!


Angela James

in June 17th, 2009 @ 05:18

@Kim you said:

“It would have been gauche to ask them to do a workshop at a conference at which they’re not welcome without a fee. Catch 22. ”

They wouldn’t have had to ask. I submitted a proposal for one and was turned down. But, in all fairness, they may have felt the proposal wasn’t a good one.

And to be equally fair, despite RT saying in the comments below that they welcome ideas for epublishing topics, I think that’s not quite exactly true as it depends on who is submitting the topics. I was told (by Ms. Stacy) last year that allowing a publisher to present a workshop might appear self-serving. So maybe RWA has similar feelings and in the case of both conferences, it’s most definitely their right to make that choice.

I have no doubt that organizing a conference and slotting workshops to meet the needs of all attendees is not only arduous, but at times frustrating (and probably thankless). My frustration comes not from the fact that my workshop wasn’t chosen, but that NO workshop was chosen (or organized) by RWA on the topics of epublishing or digital publishing (RT deserves mad props for recognizing the need for an epublishing/digital track and working to provide one).

But I do conflate it back to Ms. Pershing’s June letter and have come to believe RWA did so in order to avoid any appearance of giving “approval” to those methods of publishing, despite the fact that even NY publishers are testing the waters there. Harlequin releases in digital only–and not incidentally doesn’t offer “every single author”–to quote Ms. Pershing–a minimum $1000 advance. Does this mean author’s choosing to publish books with Harlequin via this digital method aren’t career minded?


Randy Robbins

in June 17th, 2009 @ 06:10

Thank you for your informative commentary! As an unpublished writer trying to break into this market, it could not be more obvious to me that e-publishing is my best bet for doing so. You are so correct that the current realities of publishing in print and in electronic formats demand the flexibility afforded by an entrepreneurial approach to the business. I intend to write for a living, so of course I am interested in a publisher’s terms. But I think it is my responsibility to make sure the payment is appropriate for me, not the RWA’s. I am much more interested in a publisher’s credentials and reputation–how they handle submissions, what other authors they publish, how they promote themselves in general, etc.–than I am in whether they can offer me $1,000 upfront.


Deb Noone

in June 17th, 2009 @ 06:11

Thanks, Deidre – a great post! And a good way to get the discussion going on a crucial issue.

Caridad Pineiro’s referral to “career focused” made me think about the many ways all of us are career focused. It’s not the same for each. Some write full-time, others (like me) work full time jobs and write at 4:30 am for 6 years straight. But we are all writers no matter who contracts us. Someday I’ll be published (and yes, I am submitting to both print and e-pub). But whereever I make my first sale, I will always consider myself career-focused, not becuase of the money I will earn, but because of my dedication to learning the craft, putting my butt in the chair every day and plugging away against great odds. As many have said, without my local chapter (and yes, I’ve learned from RWA, too, as I get ready to head to my first national) I would not have honed my skills, learned a craft and spent MANY tedious (but happy) hours trying to earn my first $ as a writer. And whether those dollars add up to $100 or $1000, I will feel proud that I focused on my writing career. Having said all that, I have learned so much about e-pubblishing in the last two years. It is the wave of the future. As Hannah Howell said, we can’t make change unless we are part of the group, make our voices heard, and come up with a solution within RWA.


Jennifer North

in June 17th, 2009 @ 06:28

Thanks so much for this insightful post, Deidre and espan! I appreciate the support for all kinds of authors in this industry.

I’ve been an RWA member for four years and I believe my writing career has benefited from my participation. There are so many diverse, cool and creative people in this business and many of the RWA-sponsored groups and events I’ve participated in reflect this.

But I’ve been very frustrated by the lack of clarity AND the lack of a proactive stance on e-publishers and their authors reflected in the RWA’s national publications and actions.

Upfront and professional guidance, support and factual information would be much more helpful than the reactive, vague and sometimes dismissive stances taken toward digital publishing thus far.


Caridad Pineiro

in June 17th, 2009 @ 06:36

Deb, you’ve hit the nail on the head about “career-focused”. Like you I still have a full time job and write at all hours in order to pursue a writing career. I’ve published 20 novels/novellas through traditional NYC houses, but have more than once considered other avenues such as e-publishing for a number of reasons.

As I mentioned before, it’s an author’s choice to decide how to build a career. There are many successful e-pubbed authors who have gone into traditional channels and there are many traditionally published authors who are exploring e-publishing.

Authors should have the freedom to make these career decisions.

If RWA wants to “educate us” (and boy did I see read while I read this letter), then offer workshops on digital publishing, provide us with the information we need about all publishers (i.e., years in business, number of editors, books published per year) so that an author can determine which is the best career path for them.


Jannifer Hoffman

in June 17th, 2009 @ 07:02

I’m trying to understand something regarding RWA and e-publishing.
If an e-published book(also in print) is not recognized to enter in the Golden Heart then should it not be eligible for the Rita?


Brenna Lyons

in June 17th, 2009 @ 07:14

That’s LONG been a problem with RWA contests. Depending on how the contest rules are written, you may be unable to enter the published contest and STILL unable to enter the unpublished contest, because you are published in some fashion in the genre.

Now, not that I’d want to enter an unpublished contest. With 75 publications to my name, award wins, reviews…unpublished I am NOT. It would be an insult to me and an unfair advantage to compete as unpublished. At the same time, it really annoys me that some of the contests (God bless the ones that are inclusive, some of the chapter contests like PRISM I’ve seen!) would dismiss a book as unpublished (and an author as unpublished) that has a backlist the likes of mine.

Dedication to career? I have not only that backlist but 25 signed contracts or so that need fulfilled in the next two or three years (many of them signed on a blurb and title and series affiliation only…not even partial chapters, because publishers who know me take that chance with me), and that’s not counting the new things I write and sell on the side, before then. With 20 series worlds, who knows what might rear up in the meantime. I work at writing 6-7 days a week (between writing, editing, and marketing) and 8-16 hours a day. I teach classes. I mentor new authors, when I have time.

Once a year or so, I give NY a try, but let me make something terribly clear. I have no interest in dumping indie/e for NY. I want to work in both. If it’s good enough for Piers Anthony and Deidre Knight, why shouldn’t it be for me? I love the pros of indie press. There’s only one con (besides the attitudes of the WAs, which agents and NY editors do not agree with, according to Dee Powers’ yearly survey), and that’s the smaller audience. Guess what? Working with both solves that problem…or pure longevity in indie does. And it might even bring some NY readers home to indie, where I make a ton more per book sold than I would in NY. Stranger things have happened.

Brenna


Shayla Kersten

in June 17th, 2009 @ 07:16

Jannifer Hoffman–

The requirement of a print book for the RITAs included a clause about “mass produced”. I never saw a print run number associated with “mass produced”. This effectively excluded many small press and e-pubs from the RITAs because they normally use print on demand (POD) technology. Trying to do print runs is very expensive and requires warehousing and overhead costs. POD allows a publisher to print only what is ordered.


Rae Monet

in June 17th, 2009 @ 07:19

Deidre, I applaud your comments and agree with you 200%!


Cassandra Curtis

in June 17th, 2009 @ 07:56

Brilliant article, Ms. Knight. I’ve been on the fence about whether to join the RWA for several years now. Every time I get ready to send in my application and my hard earned money, I hear about the RWA’s general lack of respect and recognition for those of us who are e-published or printed by a small press.

After reading your post and the myriad comments left by former and current RWA members, I am curious how the RWA ‘powers that be’ will respond.

I may just slip my checkbook back into my purse and leave it there yet again until a more progressive board takes the reins.


Arwen Lynch

in June 17th, 2009 @ 07:57

I joined ESPAN yesterday because of this post. I hope other RWA members who are also e-pubbed will do the same.

Maybe we can show RWA in a way the board can grasp. Cold, hard numbers.

I wasted money joining another electronic supposedly professional group this past year. I was more than dissatisfied with that. I would prefer to hope that RWA’s board can get their collective acts together and make this more-than-necessary change.

So if you are an RWA e-pubbed author, plunk down the money and join ESPAN. Together we can make the difference that has to be made. I, for one, am tired of being the forgotten one of RWA.


Lauren Dane

in June 17th, 2009 @ 08:16

Well said, Deidre. I don’t have much to add, many of the comments have echoed my feelings on the matter. I’m just thrilled to hear more voices getting out there and speaking so coherently and cogently on digital publishing as a legitimate model for authors.


Vivi Anna

in June 17th, 2009 @ 08:20

Great article Deidre. Bravo. Thanks for speaking out.

As my chapter’s president I have always advocated epublishing as a viable means to make a career. Because that is where I started and stil am even though I am also published traditionally with big NY publishers. I don’t see myself stopping that any time soon. I like what epublishing does for me in my career. And I believe all writers should have the right information to make their own informative decisions if epublishing is a good choice for them. It is their career afterall,


PG Forte

in June 17th, 2009 @ 09:15

@ Angela James. You said: “Harlequin releases in digital only–and not incidentally doesn’t offer “every single author”–to quote Ms. Pershing–a minimum $1000 advance. Does this mean author’s choosing to publish books with Harlequin via this digital method aren’t career minded?”

What a very interesting point! If this is true then, by my reading of Ms. Pershing’s letter, Harlequin’s business model does not benefit ALL its authors (RWA members) equally, which should lead to its being bumped from the ‘eligible publisher’ list and banned from …oh, a whole laundry list of promotional opportunities. Spotlight workshops. Publisher appointments. Anything that would suggest it had RWA’s tacit endorsement.


Lee Rowan

in June 17th, 2009 @ 09:21

Excellent article–but like every article about RWA, there’s the elephant in the living room that no one seems to talk about—the unspoken assumption that RWA is the end-all and be-all of romance writing, the veritable Vatican of hearts-and-flowers.

Why?

After watching the tug-of-war at RWA between the old guard who seem to believe that romance–and the Romance genre–must confine itself to one narrow, rigid definition–I still find it puzzling that the younger, more adventurous, and more diverse group of writers (who, by now, surely outnumber the inflexible traditionalists) have not taken their dues and their organizational skills and formed a new, more inclusive group. Standing, hat in hand, outside Aunt Hattie’s tea party and begging admission when it’s clearly time for a change… what’s the point? It isn’t Almack’s, and it isn’t 1815.

This is not dog-in-the-manger. My first gay romance, Ransom, met the “professional” requirements a year or so after it was published (e-book and POD, by Linden Bay Romance.) A number of other similar books by other e/POD publishers did the same. I didn’t choose to join because their ‘no-icky-queers’ attitude made it clear that they’d be happy to take my money … in exchange for a seat at the far back of the bus. No, thanks.

And then RWA changed the rules to shove POD, royalty-only publishers right off the bus.

At this point, I wouldn’t join RWA if they paid me. Yes, I know, the networking opportunities are tremendous… but they are not irreproducible.

I know many people who are in RWA, and the refrain is always the same: “Oh, my local group isn’t like that, they’re great.” I believe them.

So I ask again: what is preventing the members of RWA who do not agree with its policies or politics from simply forming a new and more inclusive group? At the very least, members who are not in agreement with these outdated attitudes might refuse to send in renewal dues until some honest efforts are made to move into the 21st century. Or even the late 20th.

What’s the obstacle?


Carol Stacy

in June 17th, 2009 @ 09:21

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Hi Angela,

I don’t remember off hand what the topic you submitted was but if it was rejected it was because I felt it was not broad enough. If it was a broad topic then I apologize and would love for you to resubmit.

We do give e/small press publishers their own “Publisher Spotlight” where publishers can talk about the company and what they are looking for.

The general e/small press program it a much broader view of the industry, where it’s at and where it’s going. I want the program to educate writers who are not familiar with the e industry as well as help guide writers who are go through the process, tell them what to look out for, and what are the benefits.

I appeal to anyone who has expertise in e-publishing to help me put together a strong program that meets these objectives.

As I said in my previous post I support the e industry and want to help writers navigate through their options.

Carol Stacy
cstacy@rtbookreviews.com


Brenna Lyons

in June 17th, 2009 @ 09:29

Oh Lee! You so took it where I was thinking, at one point. So many of the people I talk to say their local groups are the only reason they stay, I have to wonder, what would happen if all of them formed their own “chapters” outside of RWA and just met that way? There are a ton of free local writing groups. There are a ton of online writing groups you could meet on, as well as meeting with your local group. Why stick with RWA, if all there is for you is the local group?

And Carol Stacey? If you’re serious, e-mail me. Considering the book information I’m amassing about indie/e publishing currently encompasses 250 single-spaced pages of 11pt type, I think I have information to aid in your plan.

Brenna


Jeannie Ruesch

in June 17th, 2009 @ 09:34

@PG Forte — Harlequin has a line called Historical Undone, that is strictly short story and e-book, available on their website. So yes, they’ve definitely recognized the value in this format, and I also believe they are one of the first publishers to actively work on putting their backlist in ebook format on the site.

For category authors, this is a big thing. Normally, their book is on the shelf for a month or so, but with the book available at Harlequin’s website, their books are available for purchase long after the shelf-life has expired. It shows that one of the biggest publishers in this industry recognizes the value of e-books. Their business model is smart — used in conjunction with their traditional print lines, they are ahead of the curve.

In addition, Harlequin Mills and Boon just inked a partnership with Mobcast Services Ltd. to make their ebooks available on mobile phones.

Harlequin Mills and Boons digital marketing director is an avid supporter of the ebook format. He is quoted in an article from last week saying, ” Since the start of 2009 – with the launch of our new website and complete eBook range – we have seen a dramatic increase in eBook sales. EBooks offer an instant read, and with mobile phone downloads now available for all our titles, this is a great opportunity for even more readers to enjoy Mills & Boon.”

With romance’s best known publisher leading the charge, why is RWA staying so far behind?


Lynda Hilburn

in June 17th, 2009 @ 09:45

Thought-provoking post, Deidre. Thank you!


Lee Rowan

in June 17th, 2009 @ 09:57

Brenna —

One local-chapter RWA writer did say that their chapter had considered withdrawing but could not afford to, because their dues were non-refundable and they wouldn’t have the cash in hand to fund any activities for a year. That’s got to be a serious consideration, but the disregard for the realities of e-publishing and the disrespect for e-published writers has been going on for far too long. As long as people keep sending in their dues, there is no motivation to change. That’s why I suggested a renewal strike as a possible means of getting their attention.

As far as “alternative” romance is concerned… it’ll be interesting to see how RWA manages to rewrite the rules to exclude the Running Press M/M series. Erastes’ Transgressions and Alex Beecroft’s False Colors, meet all the PAN requirements, though I doubt that either writer, being British, intends to join RWA. Both books are doing very well, disproving naysaying–and two more, my own Tangled Web and Donald Hardy’s Lover’s Knot, are due out in the fall. The argument that lgbt romance is an irrelevant niche market just doesn’t hold up, any more than the idea that e-books are just a fad. This sub-genre may not appeal to the more traditional romance reader, but that holds true for lots of sub-genres. I like historical m/f as well as m/m, but I’d probably never pick up an ‘inspirational’ or a vampire romance. Romance is about love, and just about everyone can relate to that in one way or another.


Barbara J. Hancock

in June 17th, 2009 @ 10:00

I’m proud of all the stories I’ve sold. I’m thrilled to write for Silhouette, Samhain and Loose Id. I hope RWA’s stance doesn’t keep writers from submitting to e-publishers. It’s been a pure joy for me to discover this world. (A joy for which I get paid!) I would hate for anyone to miss out on an opportunity.

To RWA I would say: I’m watching and waiting.


Jeannie Ruesch

in June 17th, 2009 @ 10:11

Lee asked: what is preventing the members of RWA who do not agree with its policies or politics from simply forming a new and more inclusive group?

I can only speak for myself, but I choose not to leave RWA because I love the organization. I don’t WANT to see it whither away.

I want to see it grow, succeed, and become something that embraces and helps ALL of its members, no matter where they are at in their career. From their definition of career-focused, if you are unpublished, but working towards it, you are career-focused. If you publish with a house that offers an advance of $1000 means you are career-focused. But if you deviate anywhere off that single-minded track, you’ve lost your focus. You’ve gone to the dark side in desperation to say you are “published,” and you aren’t on a career path any longer. That speaks of THEIR need to be educated, not mine. So I’ll throw my voice in the mix with everyone else and try to help educate them.

I may not be happy with their stance on e-publishing right now, but that doesn’t mean I’m throwing the baby out with the bathwater. If all of a sudden they gave qualified epubs and small presses the same venues as the NY pubs, if they changed the rules to allow POD printed small press/epub books into the RITA… would all the people talking of leaving suddenly say what a wonderful organization this is? Is that the line in the sand drawn on this end?

I say that now– it is a wonderful organization. And I know not everyone agrees with me, that’s okay. I would not be published now without them, what they have given me is invaluable, and I want to see them continue, to thrive, to grow. RWA offers a tremendous amount to writers starting out, to established authors at an “acceptable” level. It’s this level — the inbetweeners, so to speak–who need some love.

I believe that the organization can and will change. It will have to at some point, as more publishers like Harlequin embrace the world. And it will do that faster if those who believe in the need stick around and remind them of it.


Shayla Kersten

in June 17th, 2009 @ 10:58

Lee Rowan said: “As far as “alternative” romance is concerned… it’ll be interesting to see how RWA manages to rewrite the rules to exclude the Running Press M/M series. Erastes’ Transgressions and Alex Beecroft’s False Colors, meet all the PAN requirements…”

Lee, I joined RWA in 2006. At the time, all I wrote was gay romances. I made PAN in 2007 based on my gay romance The Cost of Eternity. I’ve found the discrimination against alternative romances to be less than the prejudice against ebooks. Very strange but true. Even at National conferences in Atlanta and Dallas, people were more interested in why I wrote gay romances.

As far as loyalty to a local chapter, Diamond State Romance Authors was founded by five authors from the Passionate Ink online chapter. Writing erotic or gay or whatever, never mattered to our local group. And we dodn’t care if you are print or ebooks, single title or short story, we celebrate all successes! And we encourage all reputable means to a career in writing.

Unlike National, we try to educate our members in the different routes to publish and the pros and cons of all publishers. We challenge each other to make the leap to submit, whether it is a short story anthology, True Confession mags, a NY pub or an epub. To us, all are credible means to boosting an income, gaining experience in publishing and getting your name out there.

I only wish National was as supportive of career-minded writers. Especially in the lean days of this recession.

Shayla


Deidre Knight

in June 17th, 2009 @ 11:41

I’m short on time, and can’t find the original post, but I wanted to address the comment that both Diane and I are concerned about authors. I want to reiterate something in reply–there is no doubt in my MIND that Diane is concerned about protecting RWA and is also faced with incredibly difficult decisions in terms of policy regarding e-publishing. That has never been a question in my mind. To me, it’s more a matter of everyone on the board, not just Diane, creating new policies and definitions that address the fact that publishing has changed more in the last 6-9 months than perhaps at any other time previously (Well, with apologies to Johannes Gutenberg, lol.)

I just wanted to reiterate that I don’t think there’s a bad guy here, or that RWA isn’t a great organization. It’s been during Diane’s term that we’ve been fortunate enough, for instance, to see the first gay and lesbian RWA chapter launched.

Also, I applaud them for the information they have relayed about the Google settlement and piracy. Someone else had mentioned that RWA should do more than send its authors a list of links of piracy sites. I actually disagree because as someone who tries to watchdog for agency clients, it’s a near-impossible task with sites being taken down and launched from new addresses constantly. In my opninion as an agent, it is every author’s responsibility to search online and look for pirated versions of their works, then issue take down notices.

Anyway, I just wanted to add those comments because while asking for change, let’s be sure to compliment and commend RWA and the board for these measures. :)

Thanks a million times over for all this terrific support, the insightful comments, the wonderful discussion.
Thanks! Deidre


Cher Gorman

in June 17th, 2009 @ 11:55

RWA and change is an oxymoron. It all depends on the board and how progressive they are. A couple of years ago the board opened up PAN membership to members who were e-published and one of my publishers Loose Id was put on the golden list of “approved RWA” publishers. I quickly applied for PAN and was accepted. Right after my acceptance went through a new board was elected, the rules changed and all e-pubs were out. Thankfully they didn’t kick me out of PAN. The main reason I keep my RWA membership is because without it I can’t be a member of my local chapters. Sadly, I don’t think that RWA will EVER change their stance concerning e-publishing and make the change permanent.. E-publishing will always be the red-headed step child to RWA. I have actually had authors look as though they smelled something bad when they discover I’m e-pubbed. Somet of them won’t even speak to me in the break room reserved for PAN members. It’s like I’m invisible.

Cher


Beth Cornelison

in June 17th, 2009 @ 12:00

Thank you, Ms. Knight, for your insightful post. Good points all.
And I’d like to echo Caridad P’s comments on the “mass produced” wordage that was added to the Rita rules, presumably to keep e-published books out of the competition. (Meanwhile, e-published books are finaling in and winning chapter level contests, demonstrating the quality of e-published books.) I say, open the Rita to whomever wishes to enter and pay the entry fee. The cream will rise to the top. Isn’t that what the Rita is about? Recognizing the best in romance fiction? So how can the Rita represent the best romance books in a given year, if a large portion of the award-winning books from RWA chapter-level published contests are not allowed to enter the Rita?


PG Forte

in June 17th, 2009 @ 12:10

@ Jeannie Ruesch you said: “With romance’s best known publisher leading the charge, why is RWA staying so far behind?”

Well, that is the question, isn’t it? *g*

I suspect this is all part of what might be termed The Triskelion Effect. If I’m recalling things correctly, RWA had just thought about dipping its toe in the lovely waters of the epublishing-might-be-viable pool when the tsunami hit. I can understand why a lot of authors would have been frightened after that and I don’t think anyone would fault RWA for urging caution, but their reactionary response, while it might be somewhat understandable, is not reasonable, realistic or useful.

They’re not staying abreast of the changes that are occurring in the industry. They’re not educating themselves about new business models. They’re certainly not educating their members!

Having said all that, however, I happen to agree with you. I don’t want to see RWA disappear. I’d so much rather see it move with the times and act in a way that would, truly, be to the benefit of ALL its members.


Lauren Dane

in June 17th, 2009 @ 12:11

I’ll answer why I don’t just leave and form a new organization – why should I? Really, it’s a serious question. Why should I leave? I pay my dues and I’m a member and I don’t see why I should leave rather than try to help facilitate change.

I don’t just write ebooks and frankly, I think we’re marginalized enough that I don’t want to aid it any further. RWA is my organization too, I’ll stay and try to change it from the inside until it either finally becomes impossible or I can’t take it anymore.

That being said, I think, if you hate an organization you belong to, you should leave. I’m not being bitchy, it’s a sincere comment. Why should anyone pay all that money to be miserable? If you hate RWA, you should go, it’s not helping you, we all have enough stress in our lives.


Arwen

in June 17th, 2009 @ 12:20

@Jeannie Rusch and @Lauren Dane, I agree. I’ve had discussions with those who left because I feel that the only way to make effective change is to do it from the inside. RWA HAS given me a lot. My online chapters (FTHRW and FF&P) are solidly supportive groups that have helped me so much.

I do not want to leave RWA. I do feel as if my back is being put to the wall on the e-pub issue. I will not support RWA by spending money on a conference that does not address my needs as an e-pubbed author.


Jeannie Ruesch

in June 17th, 2009 @ 12:34

@Lauren Dane. Your comments: “I think we’re marginalized enough that I don’t want to aid it any further. RWA is my organization too, I’ll stay and try to change it from the inside until it either finally becomes impossible or I can’t take it anymore.”

Really important point. Leaving RWA and forming another organization might give e-pubbed and small press authors a shiny, new place with options galore open to them…but does it change anything? Does it educate people who need to know more? Does it open the lines of communication or further build walls? I don’t fault anyone who wants to go somewhere else.

But exactly like LaurenDane said, RWA is my organization, too. I imagine the task the board takes on each year is a tremendous one – making the decisions that are best for the membership at large. I don’t agree with how they’ve done that in some areas, but I respect the difficulty that goes with making those choices. We’ve mentioned plenty on the bad, but RWA does a lot of good for writers. I can’t argue with the sheer excitement a good friend of mine feels about being nominated for a RITA this year — it’s moments like those, for myself AND for friends, that make me appreciate what this organization brings to the world of romance.

The organization has grown and changed over the years, maybe slower than people like, but grown nonetheless. The newest chapter is proof of that and IA, it deserves to be acknowledged as a great step in the right direction. I have no doubt that it will continue to grow… I plan to be a part of that.


Jade Buchanan

in June 17th, 2009 @ 13:03

@Lauren Dane. Thank you for saying “RWA is my organization too, I’ll stay and try to change it from the inside until it either finally becomes impossible or I can’t take it anymore.”

I couldn’t agree more with you. I’ve always felt that if you really want change to happen you need to work from the inside. This was exactly what a handful of us were thinking when we started to talk about forming Rainbow Romance Writers. I’m the president of RRW, and I’m happy to say that we have a lovely mix of both print and e-published authors.

We may be frustrated at some of the things RWA says or does, but it’s up to us to show them why they’re misinformed. I don’t believe they are maliciously trying to get rid of epubbed authors. They may sincerely believe they are doing the right thing by their actions, and I agree with Deidre’s recent comment that there are a lot of good things that have happened. I can’t begin to imagine all of the issues that are brought forward every year. But, I hope we can all educate the RWA membership and RWA National about the legitimacy of epublishing and the positives that have all been mentioned by others here.


Angela Caperton

in June 17th, 2009 @ 14:56

Spot on, Deidre. Thank you so much for so eloquently and concisely presenting the case for e-publishing.


Jennifer St. Giles

in June 17th, 2009 @ 16:58

Brava Deidre! Very well said and absolutely the unvarnished truth. The publishing world is drastically changing and all parties involved in writing and publishing books must redefine everything about it. Especially RWA who needs to be romance writers’ greatest advocate. That means forging ahead into new markets and opening the way for writers to grow and expand. thank you Deidre for speaking out!


Madelynne Ellis

in June 18th, 2009 @ 08:20

Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful post. Issues such as these make me increasingly dubious about renewing my RWA membership.


Tambra Kendall

in June 18th, 2009 @ 09:01

Deidre,

Thank you for speaking so eloquently on this topic. I hope RWA will begin to serve all of its published authors. As a long time RWA member I find myself wondering if I should continue paying dues to an organization that refuses to acknowledge me as an author.

Best,
Tambra Kendall


Jean Watkins

in June 18th, 2009 @ 09:12

Thank you Ms. Knight for your wonderfully thought out article. I personally am not in the RWA but many of the people I am associated with are members. Hopefully someone with your clout will get them to thinking about them shooting themselves in the foot. If they loose membership over their position on epublishers, then they will be headed the way of the dinosaurs.


Denise McDonald

in June 18th, 2009 @ 10:23

A wonderful post ~ thank you!


Francesca Hawley

in June 18th, 2009 @ 10:52

Stellar post, Ms. Knight. You’ve stated the case eloquently. Thank you SO much for helping all of us to be heard.
The phrase in the June President’s letter which steamed me the most was the suggestion that a royalty rate of 37.5% was “inconsequential” because it only benefited a few authors. Earning at a rate of 37.5% is better for the author than 10% regardless of whether you sell 100 or 1000 books – or more. Earnings based on a higher royalty rate are most decidedly NOT inconsequential. I’ve only been a member of RWA for about three years, but in those three I’ve been dismayed by the attitude of the toward electronically published authors and authors of erotic romance. The attitude seems painfully and deeply entrenched. I’m really looking long at hard at whether I wish to remain a member of an organization which takes my money, but (if rules remain unchanged) considers me too published for the Golden Heart but not published enough to enter the RITA.


Delle Jacobs

in June 18th, 2009 @ 11:16

Thanks so much for this wonderful post, Deidre.

I agree with others, though, elitism is not new in RWA. I’ve been a member since 1993, and and e-published author since 2000. I’ve been slammed, damned, dunked and battered all that time. As soon as I meet RWA standards as a PAN member, or RITA-eligible member, the rules suddenly change. My two Samhain books should have been eligible for RITA entry in 2008, but the rule suddenly changed, requiring them to be printed by the publisher before the end of the year. Now that they’ll be eligible in 2009 for the 2010 RITAs, I have no doubt the rules will change yet again.

The object is not so much keeping out e-book publishers as it is excluding the authors. Elitism cannot exist if everyone has the same standing. The pretzel logic used to justify the RWA bias would never stand up in a court of law, and I honestly believe nothing short of a class action suit will force any meaningful changes. Why no one has done that so far baffles me. But I have to admit I don’t want to be the one to do it, despite the tremendous damage RWA has done to me personally.


Jax Cassidy

in June 18th, 2009 @ 11:31

Bravo! What a eloquent post, Deidre! I think your insight will help others who weren’t very informed on the topic understand it a little better.


jim duncan

in June 18th, 2009 @ 16:25

Lots of complaining about what is wrong here. I’ve heard it numerous times other than here. The complaints are legitimate. So the question then is, what’s to be done about it? There seems (and I could be wrong) to be a disconnection between epub authors/publishers and RWA leadership. Is there any kind of dialogue going on here? Is there any ongoing discussion betwee these two sides to come to a better understanding. As one commenter pointed out, are epubbed authors filling the RWA leadership inboxes with emails about this issue? Is this happening and RWA is just ignoring it? I don’t know, but it sure seems like this whole issue could deal with a lot more transparency on both sides. Things do need to change. The last year has seen a great deal of development in the digital realm. RWA maybe and seems to be slow on the uptake to discuss resolving this and where things should be heading. It’s unfortunate that National this year isn’t taking the opportunity to have some open discussion/debate on this issue, much less having no workshops around digital publishing. It will be rather short-sighted on RWA’s part if they don’t dig into this issue and figure something out because digital publishing is obviously here to stay, it’s growing, and as we’ve seen with the big publishers, business models are changing because of it. RWA is a fantastic organization. I don’t write romance, but I belong because it is one of the best out there. Big organizations are also slow to change, and folks need to keep a level head. Bailing on RWA isn’t the answer. Speaking up and engaging the leadership in a thoughtful, intelligent manner is however, and the more people do, the more likely the ears will open and be recepting to discussion and change.


Cher Gorman

in June 18th, 2009 @ 17:12

In regard to Jim Duncan’s comments…Creating dialogue with the powers that be at RWA would be great however each board has a different opinion about what changes should or should not be made. It’s like talking to a wall most of the time. They say they want to listen to member’s concerns but personally I think want to listen as long as those concerns align with their own. If they are in opposition forget it. They don’t listen no matter how much they say they do. If electronic publishing had been established at the time that RWA was formed back in 1981 things might be different. But the organization has been formed for almost 30 years and I don’t see them changing. I think it would take something drastic like all of their unpublished members and electronically published members not renewing their membership. At present I don’t know what the percentages are of published authors to unpublished authors to electronically published authors but I do know that the majority of RWA’s members are not published. Without those members RWA would not be what it is today.

My .02 cents

Cher


Savanna Kougar

in June 18th, 2009 @ 19:54

Jim Duncan, addressing your comment. Everything you suggest is a reasonble course of action. And if we were dealing with reasonable people that have no other agenda other than to truly assist authors, this would work. However, it’s already been tried and done to death by most of us authors, imho.
I’ve raised my concerns. Most authors I know have done the same. It’s done nothing whatsoever, except bring about tactics designed to keep us at bay. It’s time to storm the castle with our concerns and demands.


Jannifer Hoffman

in June 18th, 2009 @ 20:04

Storming the castle sounds good to me. I, for one, do not plan to renew.


Sandy

in June 19th, 2009 @ 05:06

I agree with Jim Duncan that dropping out of RWA is not the answer.

Part of the reason RWA has the attitude it does is because of Donald Maas’ stature within the industry. He believes that e-pubs are overblown, and when you have someone like him make a statement like that, then others will follow.


Deb Kinnard

in June 19th, 2009 @ 05:32

@ Jim — this has been tried. Repeatedly. Their stance was already formulated as early as 2002, when I attempted to open a dialogue.

The RWA leadership’s public stance is that they want to help authors. Their private stance is that they want to help authors published in certain markets. While there is this dissonance between their lip service statements and their true intent, of course there will be confused and frustrated members.

This exact issue is why I dropped out.


Monya (Mary) Clayton

in June 19th, 2009 @ 23:40

***Waving to fellow Aussie Tracy Cooper-Posey***

Deidre, you write beautifully, clearly and make your point without any room for doubt. I’m not a member of RWA though many Australian authors are. I find our Romance Writers Australia meets my needs handsomely.

I am e-published by The Wild Rose Press, who were not at first recognised by RWAmerica. E-books cannot be dismissed as only erotica or paranormal; they have grown far beyond that. My historical The Pirate And The Puritan has a “heat level” of Sweet, which is probably why it was turned down for years by mainstream publishers. TWRP also published my contemporary, Blueprint For Love, “heat level” Spicy. TWRP have separate categories for inspirational and erotic authors.

They are certainly doing their best, and like other e- and small presses now cater for all tastes in reading. I presume this is now the case with most e-presses. I understand many specialise in their subject matter but the simple fact is they have created a market for those authors whose work does not fall within the mainstream, profit-only driven, norm.

I do hope this blog and your efforts make a difference.


Patti Shenberger

in June 20th, 2009 @ 05:47

Deidre, what a great article! As an ebook author, I earned PAN on my own by earning more than $1500 in royalties over the course of 8 years. What did it get me within RWA? Nothing, other than the pink ribbon at National. Since I am now PAN, I am no longer eligible for the Golden Heart, nor am I eligible for the RITA’s since my books are epublished. This leaves me in limbo. I would have better off not getting PAN so that I would still be allowed to enter the contest.


~Sia McKye~

in June 20th, 2009 @ 07:14

Kristen and Deidre, Bravo!

Thank you for the well thought out and reasonable approach to e-published books. I posted this article to my Facebook profile because I feel it is not only valid but has some good information about e-pub royalties and sales.

I know this is not over in RWA. It’s actually quite a hot discussion right now. I’m proud to see that there are many who feel this is something that should be worked on from the inside and Jim made a good point about emails and pressure from the outside. Sometimes that’s needed to open eyes to reality.


Kimberly Ivey

in June 20th, 2009 @ 18:35

Thank you, Diedre, for speaking out publicly on a topic I’ve hashed and rehashed with other RWA members/authors/e-pubs for years.


Miriam Pace

in June 21st, 2009 @ 11:04

Cutting Off Your Nose to Spite Your Face – RWA Style

Talk about being short-sighted and close-minded.

I have been a member of RWA since 1986 and the longer I stay the more I see that this organization is not representing me and my needs even though they constantly assert that assumption.

This is just my opinion, but I really want to tell RWA to grow up. Many New York publishers are jumping on the ebook bandwagon. Harper Collins recently agreed to allow Scribd to publish all their books in digital format. If the New York publishers can see the writing on the wall why is RWA holding such a stubborn path in the face of so much overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I find that I am weighing the issue of renewing because I’m being told that RWA is representing me and yet I don’t see that. RWA also asserts that it’s looking out for my interests. Pardon me, but that’s a lot of BS. They are looking out for their interests and every time a new president is sworn in that person uses the office as a platform for their agenda.

Every year when I see the budget figures in the RWR I can’t help but wonder why the RWR is still in print considering the cost of printing. Most chapters have already switched to digital newsletters. My chapter has done digital newsletters for over ten years. The local chapters seem to be a whole lot wiser than the leadership on the Board of Directors.

The ebook controversy has been a part of RWA politics for ten years or more, from the time all ebook authors were kicked out of PAN in the most graceless, tasteless, rude manner possible. The controversy continues.

I am saddened by an organization that has so much power chooses to use that power for only a select few, discarding others while at the same time alleging that they are looking out for our interests. If RWA was looking out for my interests than maybe they need to start thinking in a more global manner. Publishing with a New York publisher is certainly a goal many writers have, but the reality is, publishing is evolving away from the business model that has been in place for a hundred years or more. When we don’t move forward we stagnate. RWA seems to be going backward, not forward.

Just my humble opinion.


Ginger Simpson

in June 21st, 2009 @ 15:17

Ms. Knight:

Thank you for your eloquent letter that states the obvious. I truly wanted to join RWA, but didn’t. Why would I pay a huge membership to an organization that doesn’t even recognize my legitimacy as an author?

I was particularly impressed with your statement about e-authors having proven themselves and the following they bring to mainstream that gives them an advantage. I would so love to be one of the lucky people signed…one day. It’s a final goal.

Thank you again for taking a stand on the behalf of so many.


Karin Huxman

in June 21st, 2009 @ 16:25

I’ve been saying all this for the almost a decade I’ve been epublished. Have hit my head against more concrete walls than I care to count. Your idea, that RWA have a point of contact on the board, like their Pro Liaison, to be the contact for epublishing issues is spot on. They need someone with an open mind who will find out facts and pertinent details and not operate from fear or prejudice. They need to represent all members, not just a chosen few. Thanks for your enlightening post.


Stacey Purcell

in June 22nd, 2009 @ 06:26

Thanks for putting this topic in perspective. I believe that we need to take off the blinders of snobbery. Traditional publishing will not disappear, but there will be room for other methods-there’s more than enough money to go around. I don’t want to miss any opportunity simply because I have my head stuck in the past.


Deb's Book Nook

in June 22nd, 2009 @ 10:29

Deidre, thank you for an interesting and eye opening article. I’ve learned a lot from it.

As an avid reader, former bookseller and now librarian, I can’t begin to imagine where some of our most beloved and best selling, most read authors would be today without getting their start in the e-book industry.

I am an affiliate member of RWA for my job and find many interesting and helpful things about the organization but I do feel they are shooting themselves in the foot by not being more open to the wonderful authors that are published in e-book form.

I haven’t seen the letter from RWA so can’t comment on that but do know that many of my favorite authors, including yourself, are e-book published. I will follow the authors I read no matter what form of publication they have. I also find that e-books are a wonderful and often inexpensive way to find new authors.

Even the best selling author in the world, of any genre, has to start somewhere and if e-publishing is your start, then I say go for it or just the way it works best for you, I say go for it!


Tymber Dalton

in June 22nd, 2009 @ 16:56

Excellent post! Thank you for drawing attention to this problem.

Let’s hope the RWA listens. The RWA’s requirements are ridiculous. I have more than exceeded $1,000 in royalties on most of my titles — through e-publishing. Multiple times on some of the titles. And many of my fellow Siren-BookStrand authors have had similar experiences. For the RWA to put that position forth in the first place shows how woefully out of touch they are with e-publishing as a whole. And frankly, that makes me wonder if they are that out of touch with reality in that way, where else are they failing their members? How are they relevant? Why spend money to stay a member of an organization that refuses to validate my hard work (which, by the way, pays my mortgage)?

If my readers buy my books and consider me a “real writer,” if my mortgage company, electric company, cell phone carrier, etc. ALL consider the money I make with my writing “real money,” then why won’t the RWA consider me a “real writer” or my publishers “real publishers?” My money’s good enough to join the RWA, but not good enough to be considered one of them?

Sorry…shouldn’t vent like that but it really makes me mad.


Caridad Pineiro

in June 23rd, 2009 @ 04:49

And it’s not just about the PAN requirement, but also about how to enter the RITA. There should be no reason why an e-book by a PAN member is not eligible for this contest. At a large local chapter to which I used to belong, an e-pubbed book from The Wild Rose Press won our Single Title category two years in a row.

Also, as I mentioned, if it’s about having career-minded authors, apply a yearly earnings requirement on ALL PAN members. Not that I would like to see this, but I do want to see equal treatment and opportunities for all RWA members.


Tymber Dalton

in June 24th, 2009 @ 07:17

Ironically, today I just received my Romance Writers Report from the RWA where they’re calling for people to run for board positions.

If you want to run for President-Elect, among other requirements, you have to have a minimum of five published novels, and “…contracted to publish at least one romance novel with an RWA-eligible publisher, as defined within RWA policy…” (page 8, 2009 RWR)

Um, exclusionary much? So basically they can keep defining the rules to exclude a goodly chunk of e-published novelists, EVEN IF those novelists are making more money than an author published with an “eligible” publisher.

Someone correct me if I’m reading that wrong, because it seems to me it’s going to be nearly impossible for the membership to get the rules changed regarding e-publishing unless they start leaving in great numbers and stating WHY they’re leaving.


Sarah McNeal

in June 29th, 2009 @ 08:57

I really appreciate your well worded article. My local chapter of RWA supports epub authors. Now RWA should start listening to the authors that support it or become the dinasaur it is destined to be if it doesn’t keep up with our changing world.
Thank you so much Deidre for supporting epubbed authors.
Sarah J. McNeal


Liza Curtis Black

in July 5th, 2009 @ 08:09

As a newly published writer at an electronic press I really was naive about the RWA stance on e-publishing. As far as the $1,000 advance to writers goes–I find that mind boggling. I was published five days ago. My royalties are currently on pace to exceed $1,000 in a month. While the trade paperback industry is one I hope to break into, I cannot fathom WHY with the growth of the industry RWA would fail to back epublishing. I have been a voracious reader in this market for years. In the last 24 months I have cut the purchase of my tradepaperbacks by 75%. Most of my free coin goes to electronic books. Amazon carries the trend with Kindle. Ignoring that fact is nothing if not backward thinking.


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